On a recent thread I outlined a metaethical position called moral error theory. That thread is splitting in a few directions at the moment (deliberately so) as I want to get general thoughts on a range of topics to guide my further learning. But I still want to get feedback specifically on the issue of morality in a godless universe, and particularly from folk who believe that normal moral speech is intended to describe a real property of the universe that is good / bad / permissible / impermissible etc and apply that to certain acts. I recognise that there are a range of views of how this may be possible, and whilst I am not convinced based on what I have heard / read so far, I am still far too early in my reading to really know the options.
So, a few parameters to the thread
1. I am interested in what reasons atheists have for believing such morality can exist in a godless universe, but not if it is appeals to intuition without grounding that further.
2. I am interested in pushing back where I am not convinced, but will not be arguing for my own views. I genuinely want to get to understand different views better.
3. I am not interested in the question of whether such morality can exist if a version of theism is true. Whilst interesting, it isn't where I am most itching to learn
4. If there are theists who want to contribute I am not opposed, but not if it is about why theism works better. That could be an interesting conversation, but not one I am interested in right now on this thread.
5. Suggestions as to resources / scholars who hold a position being talked about would be appreciated.
Any thoughts from folks here? I might not reply to everything if too many answers come in, keeping things focussed will help my tiny brain to cope!
So, a few parameters to the thread
1. I am interested in what reasons atheists have for believing such morality can exist in a godless universe, but not if it is appeals to intuition without grounding that further.
2. I am interested in pushing back where I am not convinced, but will not be arguing for my own views. I genuinely want to get to understand different views better.
3. I am not interested in the question of whether such morality can exist if a version of theism is true. Whilst interesting, it isn't where I am most itching to learn
4. If there are theists who want to contribute I am not opposed, but not if it is about why theism works better. That could be an interesting conversation, but not one I am interested in right now on this thread.
5. Suggestions as to resources / scholars who hold a position being talked about would be appreciated.
Any thoughts from folks here? I might not reply to everything if too many answers come in, keeping things focussed will help my tiny brain to cope!
