(June 9, 2024 at 9:26 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote:(June 8, 2024 at 7:25 pm)Questor Wrote: Caring about the accuracy of a statement, though . . . is that not a moral question?Brings me back to something Lucian mentioned..that our beliefs about morality have often lead to poor outcomes. Is it because we believe in morality, or because we had some pertinent fact about morality wrong? The role of women being the example - was it because we believed there is the possibility of true and false answers to this question that misery ensued, or is it because we went with a false one?
The abolitionists I think would argue that belief in objective morals hinders conflict resolution where both parties think they are objectively right and the other violating something external and binding.
I am not swayed that way too much but do have some sympathy for it in some cases. perhaps it could be the case that people should not assign objective values for all the things they believe but it could be the case that there is some for the core. Similarly, perhaps we just need people to be more aware of the epistemological issues rather than jettisoning moral talk and thought.
More reading to do, but so far not an abolitionist - just firmly confused instead