Atheism and Ethics

[Ahriman]

I think it's very rarely as advantageous as we imagine to act poorly.  I want to point out it doesn't matter whether there's an objecting standard to act on for any of this.  We say, for example, that outside of moral concerns why not steal - wouldn't that be more advantageous than being moral?  We're forgetting the possibility of getting shot, the hand choppers, the lengthy prison sentences, and the social shunning

"But what if I could get away with it? -You wont.  At least not as a lifestyle decision, lol.

At the bottom of the barrel, though, I personally think that realists and antirealists have all the same reasons to accept utilitarian ethics - in the realists case, even if those utilitarian ethics rub against their moral sense.

Really?  Morals provide the justification for law.  Without morals, there is no law besides might makes right.

Blacks, Native Americans, and unwed mothers all make arguments to their benefit on principles of fairness.  But fairness is a moral concern.  Without it, the arguments vanish.

Fair to whom? Someone, somewhere, is definitely going to be treated poorly as a result of some group or another getting what they want. Doesn't seem fair to me.