RE: Atheism and Ethics
July 8, 2024 at 2:17 pm
(This post was last modified: July 8, 2024 at 2:20 pm by Lucian.)
(July 8, 2024 at 2:10 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Why stop there - I think it's possible for a society to function with a legal system void of any moral content.
So, right off the bat..no government is premised on any objective moral content because there isn't any to be had - not my opinion..but a valid one. Is there some particular reason, then, to climb down the metaethical ladder to relativist moral content? What the people want may not be what's good for them, slavery comes to mind. Okay, how about subjectivism? Kings tried that. Didn't end well. Good and well, here, referring only to outcomes - not normative content. To the utilitarian benefit in the context of the social construct.
You could play with these variables. If slavery or monarchy actually went well, for example, there would be a utilitarian argument for them even if the perpetrators themselves saw a moral argument against. We saw this play out in history over the periods in question - the kings labor...the white mans burden... etc. This is the kind of granularity splitting morality and legality provides. It's not novel in the content of laws or the establishment of governments.
I think it looks otherwise because such governments have a vested interest in making moral appeals regardless of whether or not such appeals are genuine in order to keep the mob from killing them.
For the most part I am not disagreeing with your line of argument over the last posts. Nice to be on the same page
I don’t think a lot of laws are about morality at all, that said… I do think some are. Those are ones that worry me, eg. laws against homosexual behavior etc. I could be wrong in my understanding of these, and I think in the scope of all the laws they are perhaps the outliers