(July 9, 2024 at 2:46 pm)Disagreeable Wrote:(July 9, 2024 at 2:44 pm)Lucian Wrote: Depending on how you define morality I don’t think it does, but I am interested not in why it would need one, but how it is justified without one. In other words, I am not interested in the argument about gods and morality, but I am interested in the argument of morality without a god. I want to understand the views of atheists more, and wanted to exclude people from arguing that a god is needed if they are Christian here
Morality only requires a justification if one is arguing for moral objectivity. Is that what you mean? Because if morality is subjective then you can have any opinion you like and you're no less "moral" whether you're a theist or an atheist.
Yeah, I was explicitly calling for justifications of objective moral standards in the original post. I don’t believe there are any, so wanted to get views that countered that. I happen to be a bit of a hybrid expressivist/error-theorist, but am early in my investigation of these issues so I put is always valuable.