Atheism and Ethics

[Lucian]

I'm not seeing what suffering has to do with morality?

Everything, IMO. It's how I make sense of meta-ethical language.

I think this is a problem for me still… it is how you make sense of it, it doesn’t mean that is how everyone sees it, nor that your view is the dominant one. I need to read up on this obviously, and am tempted to lend it some credence based on grandnudgers posts, but I don’t think it is a universal view. 
On the other hand, dismissing suffering as a consideration entirely does seem wrong so I am with you on pushing back on Ahriman