(August 2, 2024 at 7:28 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:(August 2, 2024 at 7:13 pm)Belacqua Wrote: Many Christians use a First Cause argument to show that there is a first cause.
Of course they think that the first cause is God. However, to show that God could be a first cause requires additional arguments.
It's obvious that the Kalam argument is Muslim. (Kalam is a kind of Islamic medieval Aristotelian theology.) These thinkers thought it applied to the Muslim God. Craig needs additional arguments to show that a Kalam-style first cause argument applies to the Christian God.
And what of it. Whether wielded by Christians or Muslims it still has special pleading and non sequitur baked into it. Even a Phi101 student can see the rubbish.
Neither Craig, nor Augustine, nor Anselm, nor the Muslims can connect those two dots. That's not because one religion is right and the other wrong, that's because the argument is based on specious premises.
It might even be said that the whole argument is a kalamity.
I’ll show myself out.
Boru
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