(August 7, 2024 at 3:23 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote:(August 6, 2024 at 5:54 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Couple more steps, not much - but..yeah. There are lots of systems that yield unintuitive results. The arguments form was chosen by plantinga for exactly that operation. It's not like he stumbled across it. What if I'd introduced it to you another way, though?
What if I'd said that it was possible that there are two possible worlds that share no elements. That if a maximally great being exists it would have to exist in all possible worlds. That there was at least one possible world that did not contain a maximally great being. Thus maximally great beings cannot exist.
Would it seem counterintuitive then - or does it just look fact-check true....?
I think that gets you to a maximally great being either existing in all possible worlds, or not existing in any of them. That's what I got from the Ontological Argument too, that it proves there must be a God or there must not be a God.
If this god is maximally great, there needs to be explained why this world he allegedly created is maximally mediocre.
