RE: The Historical Jesus
September 12, 2024 at 12:27 pm
(This post was last modified: September 12, 2024 at 12:45 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
What an absurd question. Of course magic words can't kill dumbledore, nothing can. It's a character...and a century after jk rowling is dead people might still be coming up with news things for it to do..even coming back from the dead. Draculas been doing very well.
The whole thing is pointless, though, as you don't have any original authors to refer to for such an appeal in the first place. The authorities you do have, insomuch as they are authorities, and ignoring the fact that they strongly disagreed with each other, come later. Accepting attributions or asserting them, and also denying the same over issues of doctrine or credibility important to them at the time. The bible that you have today is made up of snippets of a larger body of folklore written well after the facts of it's genesis and across cultures geography, and time. Their authorship having become part of the story, as a literary religion gone global. If you considered this carefully, you would not need to know much about christianity or literary development to understand that no one in the beginning of christianity would or could have believed any of this as you premise it. They were illiterate, or pre-literate...and the church kept magic book under wraps and away from the plebs for quite some time...after it finally got around to stealing a book and stamping it's name on it. The earliest christian literary authorities main work was rejecting the vast majority of the pile as supserstitious and/or wrong (according to them) and ensuring that it would not be repeated. Sometimes by sequestration - other times by direct action through the execution of the authoring communities. The gospels of peter, thomas, mary and judas..as examples, were victims to this enterprise, despite the fact that they were popular in their time and, by then at least, we can state that there were christians who could read, had read them, and did believe in their attribution to the figures in question.
Christian authorities explicitly rejected the very same appeal, in those cases, that you are here now making to us. That a work was attributed to this or that person - even if a large number of people had traditionally believed the attribution, was not enough to have a given work included in canon, was not enough to accept the claims made on face value.
The whole thing is pointless, though, as you don't have any original authors to refer to for such an appeal in the first place. The authorities you do have, insomuch as they are authorities, and ignoring the fact that they strongly disagreed with each other, come later. Accepting attributions or asserting them, and also denying the same over issues of doctrine or credibility important to them at the time. The bible that you have today is made up of snippets of a larger body of folklore written well after the facts of it's genesis and across cultures geography, and time. Their authorship having become part of the story, as a literary religion gone global. If you considered this carefully, you would not need to know much about christianity or literary development to understand that no one in the beginning of christianity would or could have believed any of this as you premise it. They were illiterate, or pre-literate...and the church kept magic book under wraps and away from the plebs for quite some time...after it finally got around to stealing a book and stamping it's name on it. The earliest christian literary authorities main work was rejecting the vast majority of the pile as supserstitious and/or wrong (according to them) and ensuring that it would not be repeated. Sometimes by sequestration - other times by direct action through the execution of the authoring communities. The gospels of peter, thomas, mary and judas..as examples, were victims to this enterprise, despite the fact that they were popular in their time and, by then at least, we can state that there were christians who could read, had read them, and did believe in their attribution to the figures in question.
Christian authorities explicitly rejected the very same appeal, in those cases, that you are here now making to us. That a work was attributed to this or that person - even if a large number of people had traditionally believed the attribution, was not enough to have a given work included in canon, was not enough to accept the claims made on face value.
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