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Christianity; the World's Most Violently Persecuted Religion
RE: Christianity; the World's Most Violently Persecuted Religion
(December 14, 2024 at 11:46 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
(December 14, 2024 at 3:13 am)TheWhiteMarten Wrote: 2. As mentioned a few posts ago, this is a misunderstanding of Christian doctrine - God is not "damning" us anymore than a judge "damns" a criminal to prison; while it's not an entirely wrong word to use it seems to almost entirely fundamentally miss the mechanic at action and place some blame of the judge and not the criminal.

The reason your analogy is a failure is that the human judge doesn't create the criminal knowing fully well at the moment of creation that the criminal will be such. The human judge also lacks the power to correct ab initio the character flaws that lead to criminality.

On the other hand, your god is claimed to be all-knowing, all-powerful, and the creator of everything -- including evil. He possesses the power to make humans want to be good, yet look at how imperfect we are. Your own faith proclaims that humans are inherently and unchangeably flawed, and that we receive grace only through faith, and that without that, we are doomed to hell. Your god made the rules. Your god rigged the game.

That is a far cry from a human judge enforcing agree-upon laws. Typical slip-shod apologist thinking.
A good summation of why his analogy was a false equivalence, and of course were a human judge to condemn someone to torture, would we really deem this ever to be acceptable, let alone represent perfect morality? Note I don't say torture forever, can anyone deem this to be a fit punishment? Let alone when disbelief is demonstrably beyond the control of most humans who have ever lived, Christianity after all is a very recent creation.
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RE: Christianity; the World's Most Violently Persecuted Religion - by Sheldon - December 14, 2024 at 12:12 pm

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