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Christianity; the World's Most Violently Persecuted Religion
RE: Christianity; the World's Most Violently Persecuted Religion
(December 14, 2024 at 12:14 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote:
(December 14, 2024 at 3:26 am)TheWhiteMarten Wrote: No, I wouldn't - I would be a proponent of divine objectivism. Just because the human mind is incapable of understanding a concept does not make the concept inherently incapable to be understood, and with the right perspective we would gain that ability as well.

But yes, otherwise it is a nice place to be in - one that keeps me open to new information rather than closing it off if it clashes with my pre-conceived notions and keeps my mind engaged and thinking rather than stagnant and eroding.

Can't complain all in all.

Divine objectivity is an oxymoron.  Things are either objective or not.  If a gods opinions are the truthmaker rather than facts of a matter we're dealing with subjectivity or relativity.  If facts of the matter are the truthmaker then a gods opinions and existence are irrelevant to the same.  See what I mean about your compulsion to immediately reject objectivity?

In the first sentence highlighted you argue against god's opinions, but in the latter you add in that his existence, too, is irrelevant. Is God's existence itself not one of your so-called facts of the matter? And if not, why not? I'll note in passing that we have in this thread a person arguing that God holds ultimate moral responsibility for the existence that he created. Is it not possible then that the nature or being of God is also the ultimate fact of the matter?
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RE: Christianity; the World's Most Violently Persecuted Religion - by Angrboda - December 14, 2024 at 1:04 pm

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