(December 14, 2024 at 2:55 pm)Sheldon Wrote:(December 14, 2024 at 1:58 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (Bold mine)Yes I understand the distinction theists often use to justify homophobia, but it's a tenuous distinction for me, telling people who they are is ok, as long as they deny it all their lives, by living as if they aren't gay. Also and for the record, that claim came after I'd said I had not represented the bible at all, and was an entirely different context. Since I was referring to the lie I had misrepresented what the bible said about omniscience and omnipotence, when in fact I'd made no comment whatsoever about what the bible claims about either.
Technically correct, but it repeatedly condemns acts of homosexuality. It’s as if the Bible is saying that you can be gay all the livelong day as long as you don’t act like it.
The seems like splitting rabbits.
Boru
And yes, I agree, splitting rabbits...
To reiterate, and in response to @TheWhiteMarten's original claim, I find the notion a deity (omniscient or not, omnipotent or not) can create everything, then have no culpability for any of the outcome, palpably absurd.
FWIW, the bible has passages that certainly assert the deity it depicts has literally limitless power.
For example "Luke 1:37: "For with God nothing is ever impossible..."
And the same is true of omniscience...
"Psalm 147:5: "Great is our Lord, and mighty in power; his understanding is infinite"
Job 11:7-9: God is infinite, meaning that there are no boundaries on His qualities and existence
But hey what do I know, I am just an "ignorant moron" apparently.
Fine. Then your claim that God cannot violate the law of noncontradiction does not hold and your claim about omniscience and omnipotence fails.
Btw, it's a common caveat that speakers in the bible can be wrong in the propositions to which they give voice, and that people aren't necessarily speaking literally all the time, so it becomes complicated.
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