(December 19, 2024 at 7:46 am)Belacqua Wrote:(December 19, 2024 at 7:04 am)Modern Atheism Wrote: Funny thing is that christians often like to claim credit for anything that western civilisation achieved, including science and human rights! Don't mind the fact that these things appeared after modernity started rejecting christianity!
When would you say science appeared? I don't think it happened all at once, but I suppose that depends on how you're defining it.
For example Thomas Bradwardine, in the 14th century, used math and empirical experiment to discover a great deal about motion -- proving that Aristotle was wrong about that. He helped develop the mean speed theorem and the law of falling bodies, which is usually attributed to Galileo. He was also a theologian who had a long and successful career in the church.
And of course Newton wrote more about theology than about physics, but he's usually considered to be a good scientist.
So I wonder if the rise of science required the rejection of Christianity.
And ancients prior to the Christian era scientifically discovered that the earth is round, estimated about how big it is, studied refracted and reflected light and sound; not to mention they figured out a great deal of geometry and mathematics. It didn't require rejecting any particular religion or religion in general, just not taking religious notions into account when making and testing hypotheses.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.