(May 2, 2025 at 4:35 pm)Alan V Wrote: Then what you meant was "You have to believe he exists before you can have faith in him," not "He has to exist before you can have faith in him."
Both are equal preconditions for faith. It doesn't mean much if you believe he exists, but he doesn't; or if he does exist but you don't believe. The point of my argument is that faith comes after, not before.