(May 2, 2025 at 1:07 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: Faith in the Bible is an action, which makes it consistent with trust and inconsistent with belief.Again you are conflating religious faith, with the primary definition, and they differ as described.
1. Faith (religious) is defined as a belief.
2. Trust is in the primary definition of faith, but not in the religious definition.
3. All beliefs are the affirmation of a claim.
Quote:A belief is something like a proposition that one thinks is true, and nothing more.
Thus by definition, belief in the doctrines of religion (religious faith), cannot be inconsistent with belief, it is defined as a belief.
Quote:Even the devils are said to believe, so clearly that's not the source of virtue. In the Bible, every example of faith requires someone to do something: Noah has to build a boat before there's a sign of rain, Peter has to step out into the water, and so on. Every story requires the protagonist to do something in the face of uncertainty, and that something is trusting God.
All those claims are beliefs you hold, and they are beliefs based on faith in that doctrine, not on objective evidence or "proof".