Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: May 11, 2025, 11:54 pm

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
RE: In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
I'd imagine everyone experiences doubt, and those who care about the truth understand this is a good thing, a way to critically examine claims, and to strive for as objective an answer as possible. faith is the opposite of that, it celebrates belief without proper evidence. 

In no other context would one celebrate a strong belief alongside doubts about its veracity, except in religious apologetics. The same apologetics that tries to justify this incongruous rationalisation, by lying that atheism requires faith, as if this makes their belief some sort of 50/50 premise. One might as well just toss a coin...

I never base beliefs on faith alone, even where the truth of them is so trivial as to not matter, and then I simply wouldn't care one way or another. And I have no religious beliefs, so religious faith - "strong belief in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual conviction rather than proof", is utterly useless to me. 

It's not clear why John has ignored these two different definitions, or why his arguments use the word trust, that is only found in the primary definition, and doesn't acknowledge the second religious definition of the word at all?

John also initially claimed his faith was "based on good reasons", and then when asked to present his best reason for believing a deity or deities exist, or is even possible, he ignored the request completely?

Surely if those reasons are at all compelling, they make these arguments for faith entirely redundant?
Reply



Messages In This Thread
RE: In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus - by Sheldon - May 3, 2025 at 3:39 am

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Jesus wants passionate christians purplepurpose 3 876 April 1, 2023 at 3:50 am
Last Post: Goosebump
  Why is Jesus Circumcised and not the rest of the christians ? Megabullshit 23 6638 February 9, 2020 at 3:20 pm
Last Post: BrianSoddingBoru4
  Search for Causes Lek 202 23935 January 9, 2020 at 2:47 pm
Last Post: The Grand Nudger
  In your opinion purplepurpose 20 6475 July 9, 2017 at 7:17 pm
Last Post: brewer
  Why can't Christians Verify Exactly Where Jesus Was Buried? Firefighter01 278 70869 January 19, 2017 at 8:19 am
Last Post: Little Rik
  Why can't Christians Verify Exactly Where Jesus Was Buried? Firefighter01 0 572 August 31, 2016 at 3:19 am
Last Post: Firefighter01
  Evidence and causes for doubt LadyForCamus 43 10018 March 11, 2016 at 3:27 am
Last Post: Fake Messiah
  AF friends, an opinion on Bible debate, please drfuzzy 25 6406 October 1, 2015 at 10:50 am
Last Post: houseofcantor
  What is your Opinion on Having Required Classes in Logic in Schools? Salacious B. Crumb 43 11109 August 4, 2015 at 12:01 am
Last Post: BitchinHitchins
  Opinion on this Creed Kingpin 80 19863 July 25, 2015 at 5:41 am
Last Post: pocaracas



Users browsing this thread: Nay_Sayer, 3 Guest(s)