In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus

[Belacqua]

If you also think that objective evidence is often not straightforward, self-evident, and indisputable, then we aren't disagreeing. 

Why would you even suggest this, when I have made no such claims? Objectivity is a scale not an absolute, I have said this to you, before now. 

The facts which you consider objective evidence of one thing, based on your interpretation, may indicate something different to someone else. 

Clearly I would not claim something was objective evidence if it was based solely on my subjective interpretation. Though again I fail to see what this has to do with john claiming science is not evidence based, or you disputing the oxford English definition of that word?

If you're fine with that, then there's no fight.

Fine, now do you accept that the more subjective bias that can be removed from evidence, the more reliable it becomes, do you accept that this is primarily what the methods of science are designed to do? Do you accept that science requires evidence, only John has claimed this would be bad scientific practice.

If john has anything approaching objective evidence for a deity he's not shared it, nor any evidence of any kind come to that, and I asked him repeatedly to offer his best reason for holding that belief. Instead he went on a trolling spree, making ever more outrageous claims.

Good, we agree.

When you get all fighty-fighty like this it comes across as emotional. You might want to work on this in the future.

As for John's arguments, I don't speak for him.

You might find that people who approach these issues differently from you would be more likely to discuss them if you were less accusatory. You come across as though you are in some kind of comic book battle between good and evil, and you often type personal insults. These tend to shut down discussion.