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In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
RE: In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
(May 10, 2025 at 5:16 am)Belacqua Wrote:
(May 10, 2025 at 4:33 am)Sheldon Wrote: Why would you even suggest this, when I have made no such claims? Objectivity is a scale not an absolute, I have said this to you, before now. 

Clearly I would not claim something was objective evidence if it was based solely on my subjective interpretation. Though again I fail to see what this has to do with john claiming science is not evidence based, or you disputing the oxford English definition of that word?
Fine, now do you accept that the more subjective bias that can be removed from evidence, the more reliable it becomes, do you accept that this is primarily what the methods of science are designed to do? Do you accept that science requires evidence, only John has claimed this would be bad scientific practice.

If john has anything approaching objective evidence for a deity he's not shared it, nor any evidence of any kind come to that, and I asked him repeatedly to offer his best reason for holding that belief. Instead he went on a trolling spree, making ever more outrageous claims.

Good, we agree.

When you get all fighty-fighty like this it comes across as emotional. You might want to work on this in the future.

As for John's arguments, I don't speak for him.
I suggest you read the thread before making judgements, and stop once and for all putting words in my mouth, it's tedious to have break down simply sentences for you, that you've either misunderstood, or misrepresented.

I never said you speak for John's arguments. only asked why you'd interjected in my response to his claims, with what was essentially a straw man, and I will challenge claims in a debate as I feel is appropriate.  So ironically you've misrepresented what I said here again. 
Quote:You might find that people who approach these issues differently from you would be more likely to discuss them if you were less accusatory. 
Oh do read the thread there's a good chap.

Quote:You come across as though you are in some kind of comic book battle between good and evil, and you often type personal insults. These tend to shut down discussion.
You come across as an arrogant intellectual snob, so has John in this thread, that most people no longer want to respond to, physician etc etc...
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RE: In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus - by Sheldon - May 10, 2025 at 6:37 am

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