Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: July 29, 2025, 9:59 pm

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
RE: In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
Years ago in my very first philosophy class I had an eccentric and inspiring teacher who made a lasting impression. Instead of doing a survey course he had us read A.J. Ayer's book Language Truth and Logic, word by word and line by line. It's not a long book but we debated every bit of it and a full semester was barely long enough to do it justice.

One of the reasons he was a brilliant teacher is that he could guide us through quite extreme disagreements without having anyone get emotional or insulting. I didn't realize then how rare that is.

Ayer's book was the introduction into English of logical positivism, an attempt to purge science and philosophy of anything "subjective," and keep only those statements which could be proven empirically. I started out thinking that it was an admirable goal, but in the end we had to admit it was impossible. We didn't know about Kuhn's explication of how scientific observations are "theory laden," but that was pretty much what we came up with.

Here is a good short history of how positivism in science has come and gone:

https://www.thecollector.com/positivism-is-it-dead/

So it seems to me that setting up a kind of good-vs.-evil opposition of objective vs. subjective is too simple, and needs to be examined in a careful way. It's the sort of thing we could talk about, if we were able to talk about things in a temperate way.
Reply



Messages In This Thread
RE: In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus - by Belacqua - May 10, 2025 at 6:50 am

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Why is Jesus Circumcised and not the rest of the christians ? Megabullshit 25 9708 May 13, 2025 at 8:23 am
Last Post: arewethereyet
  Jesus wants passionate christians purplepurpose 3 1062 April 1, 2023 at 3:50 am
Last Post: Goosebump
  Search for Causes Lek 202 26147 January 9, 2020 at 2:47 pm
Last Post: The Grand Nudger
  In your opinion purplepurpose 20 6860 July 9, 2017 at 7:17 pm
Last Post: brewer
  Why can't Christians Verify Exactly Where Jesus Was Buried? Firefighter01 278 74736 January 19, 2017 at 8:19 am
Last Post: Little Rik
  Why can't Christians Verify Exactly Where Jesus Was Buried? Firefighter01 0 649 August 31, 2016 at 3:19 am
Last Post: Firefighter01
  Evidence and causes for doubt LadyForCamus 43 10720 March 11, 2016 at 3:27 am
Last Post: Fake Messiah
  AF friends, an opinion on Bible debate, please drfuzzy 25 6759 October 1, 2015 at 10:50 am
Last Post: houseofcantor
  What is your Opinion on Having Required Classes in Logic in Schools? Salacious B. Crumb 43 11694 August 4, 2015 at 12:01 am
Last Post: BitchinHitchins
  Opinion on this Creed Kingpin 80 20775 July 25, 2015 at 5:41 am
Last Post: pocaracas



Users browsing this thread: 4 Guest(s)