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In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
RE: In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
(May 10, 2025 at 8:53 am)John 6IX Breezy Wrote:
(May 9, 2025 at 10:48 pm)Paleophyte Wrote: And thus for any definition of god that is distinguishable from nothing we have:

God ---> evidence
Not evidence

Evidence for God is ubiquitous, and that's the problem with requesting it. Scripture introduces God as the entity that made all things, and life in particular. Therefore, the existence of the planet and every living cell on it is evidence consistent with the thesis. To use your template: God ---> Life on Earth. And we observe life on Earth.

But you don't actually care about whether there’s evidence, you care about which interpretive framework fits it best and to be persuaded of one over the other.

Since it is "evidence" for both the thesis and the antithesis, it is evidence for neither. That's what we call "equivocal".

A ---> B
Not A ---> B

If B is true it tells us nothing about A. If B is false it tells us nothing about A. Your "evidence" is useless regardless of which framework either of us prefers. Since it appears that I need to spell it out for John PhD in Philosophy of Science, Honestly what you need is:

God ---> X
Not(Not God ---> X)
X

ETA: Isn't "God ---> Life on Earth. And we observe life on Earth" affirming the consequent? Asking for a fellow doctoral student.
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RE: In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus - by Paleophyte - May 10, 2025 at 2:16 pm

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