(May 11, 2025 at 5:49 am)Alan V Wrote:It's also telling that after coming to an atheist debate forum, with a claims for an extant deity, John wastes his time, attacking what he claims is a straw man version, why not just accurately define the deity he imagines to be real, and explain his best reason(s) for holding this belief.(May 10, 2025 at 9:07 pm)Belacqua Wrote: Dawkins lives in North Oxford. Oxford probably has a higher percentage of people who know theology well than just about any other city on the planet.
Why didn't Dawkins get on his bicycle and visit one of them, so that he could have it explained to him why this whole thing is an argument against something which they don't believe?
It is certainly true that God, "in the sense defined" by him, is a delusion.
(May 10, 2025 at 9:42 pm)Belacqua Wrote: Since divine simplicity is a fundamental point in Christian theology, this sentence is Dawkins announcing that he doesn't know what he's talking about.
The point which theologians often seem to miss is that the majority of believers do not believe in their rarified definitions of God, and that atheists critique ALL of the notions of God, typically starting with the most popular ones.
Further, I can't believe you skipped right over my correction of your idea that Dawkins only addressed the "simplest, most childish" idea of God. He certainly did not.
You are also calling the majority of believers "childish" and "delusional," which is exactly Dawkins' point.
Surely a fallacious circular argument, that assumes a prior that a deity created everything, is not the best he has?
