RE: In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
May 11, 2025 at 6:30 am
(This post was last modified: May 11, 2025 at 6:42 am by Sheldon.)
(May 11, 2025 at 6:20 am)John 6IX Breezy Wrote:Though it would be accurate of course, you seem to be attacking atheists for being accurate, rather than indulging mystery and metaphor, because those are the stock-in-trade of many who peddle unevidenced superstition.(May 11, 2025 at 6:09 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: I don't have to imagine it. I just look at the church walls.
I have no doubt that's what you see, we've talked about how observation is theory-laden. And just imagine referring to your pet as sub-human, it's such an odd anthropocentric framing.
There's also nothing wrong with interpreting evidence, if it is done objectively and accurately, and the results are the same every time, it's when one favours one version of one deity based on "evidence" that could as easily be interpreted as evidence for countless others, that one dismisses, it becomes risible.
You see John, you disbelieve in all the countless deities that I do, except one, and when I ask you why, reticence and misdirection is all I get. Of course I could choose to make my self suggestible, to lower my bar for personal credulity, to indulge in subjective bias, but to what end, if it gets me no closer to Jesus than it does to Zeus or Apollo.
It is simply a fact that the statement, the world is not flat, is an objective fact, supported by irrefutable objective evidence, whereas the statement one version of one deity is real, is a a subjective opinion. To claim they are both open to interpretation, whilst broadly true, does not imply they are equally reliable claims.