(May 17, 2025 at 4:14 am)Sheldon Wrote:(May 16, 2025 at 9:23 pm)Alan V Wrote: Not really. We have free will even if we only have two bad choices. Freedom only extends our possible uses for our abilities to assess and choose.Exactly, I hate the term free will, as it can never be entirely free, certainly we perceive some autonomy of choice, the question is whether that autonomy ends, in the same place as our perception. Or if it is all allusion, but as another poster has already pointed out, determinism and fatalism carry a burden of proof, and seem for now to be unfalsifiable ideas.
Every restaurant menu, with its limits, would negate our ability to choose by your argument.
On a more amusing note, why would a fatalist or determinist bother trying to find out, if nothing they do will change the result.
The same can be said of free will, I think, since even the perception of '...some autonomy of choice...' may be deterministic.
Boru
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