In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Right, the implication there is that information exists. It does not need to be perceived to exist. It is a real part of the universe, and I would argue its most fundamental part.

No perception is needed for those patterns to keep unfolding. There is an objective Universe aside from our own understanding, that it be here whether or not we are. The Universe existed billions of years before consciousness as we know it arose. Indeed, it led to us.

To paraphrase Freeman Dyson, "We are the Universe, pondering itself." We just happen to sit in the catbird seat.

(Bold mine)

True enough, but the SDAs insist that the Earth is just 6000 years old (more or less). I've yet to hear a scientific explanation of how consciousness arose in that teensy-weensy time frame.

In all fairness, I don't know why religionists insist on dragging science - and more often pseudo science - into their beliefs. They could simply say, 'It's all magic' and go off and have a nice brunch.

Boru