(June 3, 2025 at 5:16 pm)Alan V Wrote:(June 3, 2025 at 5:09 pm)SubtleVirtue Wrote: (11) F; "every experiment ever constructed shows that everything is made of energy"
(12) (10,11) C; "monism exists"
(13) F; "every cause involves energy"
(14) (11,12,13) C; "energy is self-causal"
(15) S; "self-causal", "self-deterministic", and "teleological"
(16) S; "self-determinism" and "consciousness"
(17) (14,15,16) C; "energy is consciousness"
I notice that you are trying to rebut a conclusion without rebutting the inference or the axioms.
Do you have a problem with the axioms or the inference?
Yes I do, with the last three bolded above. Equating self-causal with self-deterministic with consciousness is anthropomorphizing.
You are arguing for a metaphor, not for the very real existence of conscious and willful God.
Energy may have God-like powers, but that doesn't make it God if it's missing essential attributes.
thank you for highlighting your concern.
I equated self-causal with self-deterministic and self-determinism with consciousness.
anthropomorphizing is attributing human characteristics to non-humans
do animals have consciousness? That is anthropomorphizing
and by the way I am not merely "attributing", I am proving!
So, you agree that energy is eternal, omnipresent, and omnipotent?
