(July 13, 2025 at 7:13 pm)Disagreeable Wrote: Yes, consciousness is concrete. There couldn't be anything more concrete than the stuff we feel.
Err, no. Consciousness is an abstract. The stuff that we feel is an abstract, like justice or beauty. Concretes are tangible, made of atoms and energy and crap. Consciousness isn't.
Quote:Because life can be wholly explained in terms of the parts of non-life. But qualia cannot be explained in terms of the parts of non-qualia. It doesn't matter how much non-qualia, non-experience, we put together ... it doesn't suddenly leap into qualia, or experience. That's a radical emergence. Life from non-life isn't radical but experience from non-experience is.
Qualia is shitty perception. Nothing special about it. Even if I allow you your quales this argument breaks down to 'I can see how life can emerge from non-life but not how qualia emerge from non-qualia'. It's an argument from ignorance. Your claim of radical emergence is unsubstantiated.