RE: To the question of does God exist, the answer is whether Intelligence created Life
September 23, 2025 at 9:50 am
(September 23, 2025 at 8:31 am)panpan Wrote:(September 23, 2025 at 7:38 am)Angrboda Wrote: And my reply, which I wrote after careful consideration of your initial post, also contained important information, which you have apparently just ignored.
This tells me where information is, but it does not tell me what it is. Moreover it's wrong, as things like air and bacteria and undifferentiated matter are included, none of which constitutes actual information, as none of it can be organized as required by the second part of your definition.
As just pointed out to you, there are exceptions to this. Repeating your earlier assertions do not answer the point you are replying to here.
A blade of grass cannot perceive information, nor organize it, nor act on it. Please explain how an organism that doesn't fit your definition of intelligence is thereby intelligent? That seems an obvious contradiction.
This applies to you and any member who wants to logically challenge the first absolute law of logic. A blade of grass is not the plant, it is like your hand, i.e. part of the being! Give a difficult real non-hypothetical example, so that we can see together whether intelligence is defined according to the law. The law does not make a qualitative distinction of intelligence. Whether something is intelligent or how intelligent it is should be analyzed with rigorous critical logical analysis.
Neither the blade of grass nor the entire grass plant nor the entire meadow is intelligent. You could plant the entire planet with grass and not get any intelligence.
Examples are trivially easy, as Angbroda demonstrated. Grass isn't intelligent. Neither is any plant, fungus, or microbe. Neither are most animals. There, you now have a longish list of non-hypothetical living organisms that show no evidence of intelligence. Your hierarchy is clearly wrong.