(August 31, 2026 at 9:42 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: No, no no no. Consciousness could be innate and also be an epiphenomenon.I think I am using the term differently than you. I clarified my usage to someone else a few posts back.
Quote: Hunger -is- a feedback loop... in any explanation where hunger causes action...whether consciousness is innate or not, whether gods exist or not.Ok is this an attempt to resolve the allegations of the OP? In a domino context, hunger is not going to "cause" satiation. Consider a stream of flowing water, and let's pretend it hungers to move in a particular direction. So turns out that it's in luck, because nature happens to flow that way consistently. There is no such consistency in food consumption. By day and hour, food availability varies in location, abundance, barriers, competition. The problem is that blind causality is indisposed to accommodate these aberrations on the consumer's behalf.
Quote: I find it hard to believe you've never seen dominoes branch off. What kind of psycho watches single lines of dominoes?You're so funny.


