(1 hour ago)Angrboda Wrote:Ok. Sure. I never said the debate is 100% freedom versus 100% determinism.(1 hour ago)Jal Wrote: No I don't assume that. In fact it clashes with one of my most fundamental beliefs, namely that in heaven God will inflame our hearts with passions too intensely holy for any further violation of conscience. Sin will be impossible in heaven. Radical freedom is only for the here and now and, even here it is not always absolute, for example an addict suffers a severely reduced freedom to resist the drug.
In heaven we'll be free to choose among various good options (e.g. chocolate or vanilla ice cream) but we'll be too holy to opt for sin.
Sounds pretty deterministic to me
On the contrary, earlier I described my mechanical body as "deterministic" meaning cause-effect alone, but it's ANIMATED by a material soul endued with a high measure of freedom. Human motility is always a mixture of freedom and determinism.
