(January 9, 2012 at 5:00 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: I think you have serious problems with reading&understanding what you just read.
Back peddle all you want. I understand perfectly.
Quote:Good, but of what good is this all to me? Or to God?
Really, if there is a God, none of this actually matters to him in any way.
This is a total deflection and you know it. This has nothing to do with your post or what I was addressing. Absolutely nothing.
Quote:Did I say that hell or god goads people into doing good, or evil?
I merely stated that without the fear of hell, or the existence of hell, religion would be pointless.
It's the same fucking thing. You wrote, quote, "the lack of a hell would quickly discourage any believers from believing in a religion, since they will know that they are doing it in vain, if the God does not punish the sinful, guilty, or the heathen."
You're saying hell is a consequence and a way for god to punish the guilty. Ergo, people will make an effort to be more moral. It's both obtuse and an outright lie for you to now deny that that is exactly what your point was.
Quote:Besides, I am on par with you on everything. I have not cheated, stolen, raped, killed...I am a law abiding citizen, and I'm a man welcomed and respected in almost every place in society.
So, what good is that to me, when it comes to God. IF God exists, everything I've done on this world, pales in comparison to him. At least the things I've done for myself, as we're only talking about individuals here.
Again with another nonsense deflection. This has nothing to do with what I addressed or your original stupidity. This is not a rebuttal, it's a whole new point that has NOTHING to do with what you originally said.
Quote:Tell me friend.
Make no doubt about this ... I am not your friend. You are a bigot and a liar who backpedals in thread after thread. I do not and would never associate with anyone who says the kind of racist shit that comes out of your mouth. You disguise it better than most others I know, but I assure you, nowhere in any reality would I ever call you such a beloved word as friend.