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The Fear Card
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RE: The Fear Card
(January 9, 2012 at 5:06 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: This is why it's pointless to believe in a religion such as that.

I don't follow. Whys is it pointless to believe in a religion that rewards one only based on works?

kılıç_mehmet Wrote:I'd rather go and worship a God that can appreciate my adoration.

Sure, but God's nature wouldn't be dependent upon your desires. What you would rather worship is irrelevant.

kılıç_mehmet Wrote:Maybe it is, maybe it is not. And even if God has issues, why really go against a higher being that has issues? One must be a fool to do so.
The point is, God does not have to do anything. He certainly has no obligation to look after your wellbeing, as you're not even the size of a bacteria in comparison to him, as he is, the universe, the multiverse, or whatever. What do you hope to accomplish by telling God how he should behave himself?

I'm not trying to go against god nor tell him/her/it how to behave. I'm pointing out that this construct of a deity is far from plausible.

kılıç_mehmet Wrote:In one way...But on the other hand, he promises you an eternal life of happiness in heaven. That counts as an incentive.

But what does that matter when you've already stated that people would not believe in a religion without eternal punishment?

kılıç_mehmet Wrote:The many faiths around the earth stand in testimony to this.

Consensus among religious dogma is nothing more than proof that the want for one's enemies to be punishment regardless of what justice comes in this life is a universal human desire.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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The Fear Card - by xxxtobymac - January 9, 2012 at 3:42 pm
RE: The Fear Card - by kılıç_mehmet - January 9, 2012 at 3:52 pm
RE: The Fear Card - by Napoléon - January 9, 2012 at 5:02 pm
RE: The Fear Card - by Norfolk And Chance - January 9, 2012 at 7:59 pm
RE: The Fear Card - by Ace Otana - January 9, 2012 at 4:03 pm
RE: The Fear Card - by TheDarkestOfAngels - January 9, 2012 at 4:03 pm
RE: The Fear Card - by Ace Otana - January 9, 2012 at 4:13 pm
RE: The Fear Card - by kılıç_mehmet - January 9, 2012 at 5:00 pm
RE: The Fear Card - by Ace Otana - January 9, 2012 at 5:08 pm
RE: The Fear Card - by kılıç_mehmet - January 9, 2012 at 5:14 pm
RE: The Fear Card - by Ace Otana - January 9, 2012 at 5:22 pm
RE: The Fear Card - by kılıç_mehmet - January 9, 2012 at 5:28 pm
RE: The Fear Card - by Ace Otana - January 9, 2012 at 5:35 pm
RE: The Fear Card - by Napoléon - January 10, 2012 at 8:13 am
RE: The Fear Card - by Cinjin - January 9, 2012 at 5:28 pm
RE: The Fear Card - by kılıç_mehmet - January 9, 2012 at 4:06 pm
RE: The Fear Card - by Cinjin - January 9, 2012 at 4:33 pm
RE: The Fear Card - by Faith No More - January 9, 2012 at 4:51 pm
RE: The Fear Card - by TheDarkestOfAngels - January 9, 2012 at 5:44 pm
RE: The Fear Card - by kılıç_mehmet - January 9, 2012 at 5:06 pm
RE: The Fear Card - by Faith No More - January 9, 2012 at 5:59 pm
RE: The Fear Card - by Minimalist - January 9, 2012 at 5:20 pm
RE: The Fear Card - by houseofcantor - January 9, 2012 at 5:42 pm
RE: The Fear Card - by Doubting Thomas - January 9, 2012 at 7:21 pm
RE: The Fear Card - by Godschild - January 10, 2012 at 5:23 am
RE: The Fear Card - by Erinome - January 9, 2012 at 8:43 pm
RE: The Fear Card - by Rokcet Scientist - January 10, 2012 at 1:10 am
RE: The Fear Card - by KichigaiNeko - January 10, 2012 at 6:48 am
RE: The Fear Card - by Godschild - January 10, 2012 at 7:36 pm
RE: The Fear Card - by TheDarkestOfAngels - January 10, 2012 at 7:55 pm
RE: The Fear Card - by houseofcantor - January 11, 2012 at 2:59 am
RE: The Fear Card - by Jackalope - January 10, 2012 at 8:22 pm
RE: The Fear Card - by Godschild - January 10, 2012 at 10:19 pm
RE: The Fear Card - by Rokcet Scientist - January 11, 2012 at 3:16 am
RE: The Fear Card - by Godschild - January 11, 2012 at 3:31 am
RE: The Fear Card - by KichigaiNeko - January 11, 2012 at 3:39 am
RE: The Fear Card - by Rokcet Scientist - January 11, 2012 at 3:43 am
RE: The Fear Card - by Godschild - January 11, 2012 at 4:09 am
RE: The Fear Card - by Ace Otana - January 11, 2012 at 6:52 am
RE: The Fear Card - by Aegrus - January 11, 2012 at 6:24 pm
RE: The Fear Card - by Rokcet Scientist - January 11, 2012 at 11:50 am
RE: The Fear Card - by TheDarkestOfAngels - January 11, 2012 at 7:02 pm
RE: The Fear Card - by Norfolk And Chance - January 10, 2012 at 8:31 pm
RE: The Fear Card - by Doubting Thomas - January 10, 2012 at 12:15 pm
RE: The Fear Card - by Napoléon - January 10, 2012 at 1:54 pm
RE: The Fear Card - by Doubting Thomas - January 10, 2012 at 2:12 pm
RE: The Fear Card - by TheDarkestOfAngels - January 10, 2012 at 2:24 pm
RE: The Fear Card - by Norfolk And Chance - January 10, 2012 at 8:01 pm
RE: The Fear Card - by TheDarkestOfAngels - January 10, 2012 at 9:48 pm
RE: The Fear Card - by xxxtobymac - January 11, 2012 at 7:37 pm
RE: The Fear Card - by Soyouz - January 10, 2012 at 6:01 pm
RE: The Fear Card - by Norfolk And Chance - January 10, 2012 at 7:53 pm
RE: The Fear Card - by KichigaiNeko - January 11, 2012 at 3:07 am
RE: The Fear Card - by SleepingDemon - January 10, 2012 at 8:01 pm
RE: The Fear Card - by J.D. - January 10, 2012 at 8:05 pm
RE: The Fear Card - by Norfolk And Chance - January 10, 2012 at 8:13 pm
RE: The Fear Card - by Freedom - January 15, 2012 at 10:16 pm
RE: The Fear Card - by Xavier - January 16, 2012 at 2:50 pm
RE: The Fear Card - by Rokcet Scientist - January 16, 2012 at 4:39 pm
RE: The Fear Card - by KichigaiNeko - January 11, 2012 at 3:18 am
RE: The Fear Card - by houseofcantor - January 11, 2012 at 1:17 pm
RE: The Fear Card - by Faith No More - January 11, 2012 at 3:47 pm
RE: The Fear Card - by Rokcet Scientist - January 11, 2012 at 4:29 pm
RE: The Fear Card - by Doubting Thomas - January 11, 2012 at 5:38 pm
RE: The Fear Card - by Doubting Thomas - January 12, 2012 at 3:06 pm
RE: The Fear Card - by Rokcet Scientist - January 12, 2012 at 11:43 pm
RE: The Fear Card - by The Grand Nudger - January 13, 2012 at 8:30 pm
RE: The Fear Card - by Rokcet Scientist - January 14, 2012 at 2:29 am
RE: The Fear Card - by TheDarkestOfAngels - January 14, 2012 at 4:29 am
RE: The Fear Card - by xxxtobymac - January 14, 2012 at 2:22 pm
RE: The Fear Card - by Rokcet Scientist - January 14, 2012 at 3:28 pm
RE: The Fear Card - by Napoléon - January 14, 2012 at 11:07 am
RE: The Fear Card - by Rokcet Scientist - January 14, 2012 at 1:40 pm
RE: The Fear Card - by Napoléon - January 14, 2012 at 1:44 pm
RE: The Fear Card - by TheDarkestOfAngels - January 14, 2012 at 5:19 pm
RE: The Fear Card - by JohnDG - January 14, 2012 at 6:15 pm
RE: The Fear Card - by houseofcantor - January 14, 2012 at 10:03 pm
RE: The Fear Card - by frankiej - January 14, 2012 at 10:14 pm
RE: The Fear Card - by Rokcet Scientist - January 14, 2012 at 11:37 pm
RE: The Fear Card - by houseofcantor - January 15, 2012 at 2:33 am
RE: The Fear Card - by The Grand Nudger - January 15, 2012 at 9:44 am
RE: The Fear Card - by Napoléon - January 15, 2012 at 10:08 am
RE: The Fear Card - by Rokcet Scientist - January 15, 2012 at 12:40 pm
RE: The Fear Card - by houseofcantor - January 17, 2012 at 8:37 am
RE: The Fear Card - by Rokcet Scientist - January 18, 2012 at 2:43 am
RE: The Fear Card - by houseofcantor - January 22, 2012 at 3:32 am
RE: The Fear Card - by TheDarkestOfAngels - January 15, 2012 at 11:01 pm
RE: The Fear Card - by Rokcet Scientist - January 15, 2012 at 11:30 pm
RE: The Fear Card - by KichigaiNeko - January 16, 2012 at 10:35 pm
RE: The Fear Card - by KichigaiNeko - January 18, 2012 at 2:26 am
RE: The Fear Card - by Rokcet Scientist - January 22, 2012 at 8:13 am
RE: The Fear Card - by houseofcantor - January 22, 2012 at 6:50 pm

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