RE: Atheism feels shunned...
July 18, 2009 at 11:52 am
(This post was last modified: July 18, 2009 at 11:59 am by Purple Rabbit.)
(July 18, 2009 at 10:01 am)Tiberius Wrote: One could say that all thought is is electrical impulses that are interpreted by the brain. Thought is just the concept we give to this interpretation.Your assertion is that first person thought is physical/electrical, the proof of burden for this is on you.
First person thought is primary fact of existence, in the current scientific framework the relation between electrical impulses and first person thought is speculative. If you claim to have solved the mind-body problem, please provide the evidence for it.
The relation between electrical impulses and third person representation of brain activity in no way qualifies as evidence for the relation between electrical impulse and first person experience.
(July 18, 2009 at 7:08 am)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: You can measure it and new work by Japanese researchers demonstrate the early stages of being able to read it.You're mixing up third person representation of brain activity with first person experience. Please acknowledge that there is a difference. There is no way you can tell that my first person experience of the colour red is the same as yours or the presentation of brain activity.
(July 18, 2009 at 7:30 am)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: What I'm saying is that as far as I know everything in the universe is physical, this is a physical universe that follows physical laws. And just because thought isn't something you can touch, etc, physically - doesn't mean it's not physical in the sense of separate to the physical universe, not made of matter and not entirely materialistic!So you are a believer. Well, what else is new.
Your assertion is that first person thought is physical, the proof of burden for this is on you.
Escape from this by saying you have no proof that it is otherwise is not valid, for the same reason that it is not valid for a theist to assert that god exists because he has no proof that it is otherwise. Keep up to the same standard of reasoning you require from others so often here on the forum.
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Christianity is perfect bullshit, christians are not - Purple Rabbit, honouring CS Lewis
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Christianity is perfect bullshit, christians are not - Purple Rabbit, honouring CS Lewis
Faith is illogical - fr0d0