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Can an American citizen be a real atheist?
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RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist?
(January 30, 2012 at 5:53 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote:
Quote:First: I didn't fell off a turnip truck .

Second: it is against the law to write (intentionally ruined) the IN GOD WE TRUST money....I am law abiding citizen of America and a proud disabled American veteran.

Okay, lets try this again:

Step one, give me all of your cash

Step two, I will perform a ceremony over the stacks of cash that procalims that the word "God" on the cash now means "godless"

Step three, I will place all of that money into my bank account (an atheists bank account, by the way), therefore laundering the money of a "true" god

Step four, I will use my debit card for all purchases, thefore legally avoiding "in god we trust"

Presto...it is now atheist money

Smile

All 4 steps not "legal binding"...therefore religulos in nature. Smile

Atheists fought and lost......

One of the first legal actions to challenge religious sloganeering of this type was made in 1978 by American Atheists founder Madalyn Murray O'Hair. In the case of MADALYN MURRAY O'HAIR et al. v. W. MICHAEL BLUMENTHAL, SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY, et al. (462 F. Supp. 19 -- W.D. Tex 1978), the court opined: "Its use is of a patriotic or ceremonial character and bears no true resemblance to a governmental sponsorship of religious exercise." The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit reached a similar conclusion in the 1970 case ARONOW v. UNITED STATES. Subsequent cases also fell short, even though they argued that the motto clearly encouraged religion and made a statement about god and theology. On September 14, 1988, then-President of American Atheists Jon Murray addressed the Subcommittee on Consumer Affairs and Coinage concerning proposals to redesign the nation's currency. At that time, Murray expressed concern about including "In God We Trust" on the national currency,


(January 30, 2012 at 5:58 pm)Doubting Thomas Wrote: It's not my fault that our currency has (in violation of the Establishment Clause) "In God We Trust" printed on it. If I had my way, it wouldn't be on there. So I don't feel like a hypocrite whenever I use money to buy something. If they'd provide atheists with alternative bills, I'd gladly accept them.

The Supreme Court ruled that the "God" in "In God We Trust" is such a generic god that it has no real religious meaning. I don't agree with this, but that's what they've said.

If it really bothers you so much that you feel like a hypocrite for not believing in God while our money carries his name, then do what I do and mark it out. Or write "No we don't" underneath. Who cares if it defaces our currency? It's not like anyone's going to actually throw you in jail for it, and I always imagine how upset it must make Christians to see that written on their dollars. Even if it is illegal to deface currency, having a phrase which claims that all Americans (the "We") believe in God is illegal according to the First Amendment because it's establishing religion. So it shouldn't even be on there in the first place.
That's the magnificent nature of the green bucks, circumnavigating the first amendments by "you" who is an American citizen, the "WE" who uses the currency by default authorized the motto to be true....IN GOD WE TRUST.

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Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by walknh2o - January 30, 2012 at 2:09 pm
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by walknh2o - January 30, 2012 at 2:31 pm
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by ElDinero - January 30, 2012 at 2:41 pm
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by walknh2o - January 30, 2012 at 4:29 pm
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by Phil - January 30, 2012 at 9:26 pm
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by ElDinero - January 30, 2012 at 2:18 pm
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by walknh2o - January 30, 2012 at 2:53 pm
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by walknh2o - January 30, 2012 at 4:04 pm
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by walknh2o - January 30, 2012 at 3:40 pm
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by walknh2o - January 30, 2012 at 7:39 pm
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by Shell B - January 30, 2012 at 3:39 pm
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by walknh2o - January 30, 2012 at 3:43 pm
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by walknh2o - January 30, 2012 at 3:52 pm
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by walknh2o - January 30, 2012 at 4:08 pm
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by walknh2o - January 30, 2012 at 5:56 pm
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by walknh2o - January 30, 2012 at 4:18 pm
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by Shell B - January 30, 2012 at 3:42 pm
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by ElDinero - January 30, 2012 at 3:53 pm
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by ElDinero - January 30, 2012 at 4:09 pm
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by ElDinero - January 30, 2012 at 4:21 pm
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by walknh2o - January 30, 2012 at 4:59 pm
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by walknh2o - January 30, 2012 at 4:51 pm
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by walknh2o - January 30, 2012 at 5:47 pm
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by walknh2o - January 30, 2012 at 6:00 pm
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by Shell B - January 30, 2012 at 7:07 pm
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by walknh2o - January 30, 2012 at 7:57 pm
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by Shell B - January 30, 2012 at 8:23 pm
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by walknh2o - January 30, 2012 at 8:33 pm
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by Blam! - January 30, 2012 at 8:55 pm
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by walknh2o - January 30, 2012 at 8:28 pm
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by walknh2o - January 30, 2012 at 10:02 pm
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by ElDinero - January 30, 2012 at 7:49 pm
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by Blam! - January 30, 2012 at 8:32 pm
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by walknh2o - January 30, 2012 at 9:34 pm
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by Shell B - January 30, 2012 at 8:41 pm
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by walknh2o - January 30, 2012 at 8:49 pm
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by Shell B - January 30, 2012 at 9:59 pm
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by walknh2o - January 30, 2012 at 10:23 pm
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by walknh2o - January 30, 2012 at 10:37 pm
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by walknh2o - January 30, 2012 at 11:23 pm
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by walknh2o - January 30, 2012 at 9:03 pm
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by Blam! - January 30, 2012 at 9:17 pm
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by walknh2o - January 30, 2012 at 9:49 pm
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by Phil - January 30, 2012 at 9:53 pm
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by Blam! - January 30, 2012 at 10:06 pm
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by walknh2o - January 30, 2012 at 10:15 pm
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by Blam! - January 30, 2012 at 10:19 pm
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by walknh2o - January 30, 2012 at 10:31 pm
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by Blam! - January 30, 2012 at 10:37 pm
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by walknh2o - January 30, 2012 at 10:45 pm
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by walknh2o - January 30, 2012 at 11:02 pm
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by Blam! - January 30, 2012 at 10:52 pm
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by walknh2o - January 30, 2012 at 11:13 pm
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by walknh2o - January 30, 2012 at 11:49 pm
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by walknh2o - January 31, 2012 at 12:04 am
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by Blam! - January 30, 2012 at 10:39 pm
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by walknh2o - January 30, 2012 at 10:50 pm
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by Blam! - January 30, 2012 at 11:02 pm
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by walknh2o - January 30, 2012 at 11:35 pm
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by walknh2o - January 30, 2012 at 11:57 pm
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by padraic - January 30, 2012 at 11:21 pm
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by Shell B - January 30, 2012 at 11:29 pm
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by walknh2o - January 30, 2012 at 11:44 pm
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by ElDinero - January 31, 2012 at 12:26 am
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by padraic - January 31, 2012 at 12:47 am
Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by Zen Badger - January 31, 2012 at 1:01 am
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by walknh2o - January 31, 2012 at 10:29 am
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by walknh2o - January 31, 2012 at 12:51 pm
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by walknh2o - January 31, 2012 at 10:39 am
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by walknh2o - January 31, 2012 at 10:55 am
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by walknh2o - January 31, 2012 at 10:46 am
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by Cyberman - January 31, 2012 at 12:08 pm
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by walknh2o - January 31, 2012 at 2:24 pm
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by padraic - January 31, 2012 at 6:09 pm
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by walknh2o - February 18, 2012 at 11:57 am
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by ElDinero - February 18, 2012 at 12:39 pm
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by walknh2o - February 21, 2012 at 9:52 am
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by NoMoreFaith - February 21, 2012 at 10:00 am
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by walknh2o - February 21, 2012 at 10:14 am
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by NoMoreFaith - February 21, 2012 at 10:18 am
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by walknh2o - February 21, 2012 at 10:27 am
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by walknh2o - February 21, 2012 at 10:01 am
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by NoMoreFaith - February 21, 2012 at 10:13 am
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by walknh2o - February 21, 2012 at 10:19 am
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by NoMoreFaith - February 21, 2012 at 10:25 am
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by Violet - February 1, 2012 at 3:43 pm
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by Minimalist - February 18, 2012 at 12:31 pm
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by ElDinero - February 21, 2012 at 1:46 pm
RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist? - by Cyberman - February 21, 2012 at 4:53 pm

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