RE: Can an American citizen be a real atheist?
January 30, 2012 at 8:33 pm
(This post was last modified: January 30, 2012 at 8:41 pm by walknh2o.)
(January 30, 2012 at 8:23 pm)Shell B Wrote:(January 30, 2012 at 7:57 pm)walknh2o Wrote: I' m a free deep,deep thinker, that's why I came here to see how deep can everybody dive.
Free . . . maybe. Sweetheart, I'm six feet tall. If I dive into water that shallow, I'll regret it.
Quote:That dollar text don't go well hand in hand with atheists beliefs because it has religious origin.
Doesn't or does not. You are partly right. It does not go hand in hand with atheism. I bet you got that "beliefs" part from your pastor. Whether it goes hand in hand is irrelevant to your argument. It would by hypocritical if I told other people to believe in god. That is the only way an atheist can be hypocritical as it pertains to atheism.
Quote:Just like in Saudi Arabia, all foreign & local women "must cover their heads" a religious rules and government law.Do you think you can visit that country without following religious law?
Candy . . . dynamite. You see what you just did? Try linear thinking. Burkas have naught to do with paper currency. If you mean, would I wear a burka where it is law? Yes, I would. I wouldn't go to another country and break the fucking law. It is not hypocritical to wear the burka, as it does not change my beliefs.
Quote:The "dollar" holds the same invisible religious law attached to it.
Really, there is religious law on the dollar bill? Oh, wait. No, there is not. You are no Houdini, pal. This might sound good to your Christian friends, but it sounds like a load of horse shit to anyone with a functioning mind.
Quote:You have to think a little deeper,that's all.
Yeah, when you evolve your way out of the shallow end, you might be able to pull that statement off.
Quote:And you are not helping me or anybody that's looking for alternative beliefs, you know from Christianities tentacles.
Why the fuck should I care? I don't have beliefs that pertain to god. Why would I try to help you with yours? If you want a conversion, go to a preacher.
All your answers missed the target dear........I'm ENKI believer, follower of Secharia Sitchins interpretations of the Sumerian texts, we believed in "alien gods,the extraterrestial kinds, from planet Niburu."
You missed a mile from the bulls eye dear!
(January 30, 2012 at 8:32 pm)Blam! Wrote:So do I man....stilll can say aloud texts from Genesis to Revelation from King James stored in the closet.(January 30, 2012 at 4:51 pm)walknh2o Wrote: History lesson:
President Dwight D. Eisenhower signed Public Law 140 making it mandatory that all coinage and paper currency display the motto "In God We Trust." The following year, Public Law 851 was enacted and signed, which officially replaced the national motto "E Pluribus Unum" with "In God We Trust" All of this occurred at the height of cold war tension, when political divisions between the Soviet and western block was simplistically portrayed as a confrontation between Judeo-Christian civilization and the "godless" menace of communism. Indeed, the new national motto was only part of a broader effort to effectively religionize civic ritual and symbols. On June 14, 1954, Congress unanimously ordered the inclusion of the words "Under God" into the nation's Pledge of Allegiance. By this time, other laws mandating public religiosity had also been enacted, including a statute for all federal justices and judges to swear an oath concluding with "So help me God."
Is it a futile form of protest? A symptom of frustration? Some Atheists and separationists are crossing out the national motto on paper money. Whatever your opinion, the history of how "In God We Trust" ended up on currency shows that the motto is religious, not secular, in its origin and function today.
Which is clearly violation of USA's Segregation of Church and State:
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." - The First Amendment of USA's Constitution.
"in God we Trust" is, indeed, a religious motto. But nevertheless, the such motto does not change the position of Atheism. In fact, I have my own King James version bible in my shelves and I'm still atheist.
You're cooking the straw men fallacy too much, man. It's all burnt now.
P.S. but I have lots of Sitchin's books....from the 12th planet to the latest Homo sapien,sapien edition.