RE: urge to pray - advice/help
February 5, 2012 at 6:22 am
(This post was last modified: February 5, 2012 at 6:27 am by brotherlylove.)
(February 5, 2012 at 6:03 am)ElDinero Wrote:(February 4, 2012 at 7:57 pm)brotherlylove Wrote: It's probably natural for you to feel this way since you now believe you live in a reality that is completely indifferent to your struggles, and is slowly grinding everything into oblivion. It's at bottom a kind of nihilism which I think is very psychologically unhealthy.
Excuse me? We've already established that the poster of this thread has found that prayer does not work. He was a believer, and through the lack of effect his prayers had, he has determined that they do not work. So when you start talking about a reality that's indifferent to his struggles, the first place we should be pointing the finger is your fucking God. Use your brain, if you have one.
Your second comment I assume was made solely to provoke. Explain to me how atheism is nihilism. When you're done trying, me and my comrades here will tear you a new arsehole.
Hey El Dinero
Nice to meet you. I was commenting from my perspective. Knowing the love of God, and knowing how much it meant to passionatefool, it breaks my heart to see him suffering, that he thinks God doesnt love him, or that He isnt even real. I don't know what happened in his life, but if he read the parable of the prodigal son, he would see the way God feels about him. God doesnt answer every prayer; we are to pray for what is in His will to do, not necessarily what we might want, because we don't know what we need. He does, and sometimes we go through a time of trials, even near to the point of death, that prove our faith, testing it by fire.On my contention about the nihilism inherent of believing we live in an indifferent Universe that mercilessly grinds everything into powder, you could start I suppose by differentiating your position from this comment by Richard Dawkins:
"In a universe of blind physical forces and genetic replication, some people are going to get hurt, other people are going to get lucky, and you won’t find any rhyme or reason in it, nor any justice. The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil and no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference."
Psalm 19:1-2
The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork. Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge.
The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork. Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge.
