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Atheism feels shunned...
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RE: Atheism feels shunned...
I'm almost off with the family to a themepark, so time is limited.

Is mathematics immaterial or material? You tell me. I am not referring to storage of information, but the information itself. Not the way the information is kept in our heads or on disc, but what it actually means in relation to other information and the physical reality. Some mathematics is yet to be discovered, it isn't necessarily stored anywhere. Is it's content non-existent when no-one is thinking about it? That would be odd wouldn't it? Then if some alien race is thinking about it, it exists, even when no human is thinking about it. If yo can physically detect mathematical concepts that would be nice, but fantasy.

Your dislike of the immaterial seems laden with your disprove of the supernatural, but the existence of the immaterial I am speaking of is a plain fact of life: fantasy, abstract concepts, mathematics it all is there. But I am not advocating the supernatural. I am not ascribing special powers over the physical to the immaterial, and I am not saying that it is indepent of the physical. I am saying that these things exist and that as of yet it is impossible to reduce them to physical properties. I am saying that there is another level of existence that supervenes the physical that for now is unexplained by the physical properties known to man.

Science is not about what is physically detectable but about what exists and enters our reality in some way.
"I'm like a rabbit suddenly trapped, in the blinding headlights of vacuous crap" - Tim Minchin in "Storm"
Christianity is perfect bullshit, christians are not - Purple Rabbit, honouring CS Lewis
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Atheism feels shunned... - by Pippy - July 5, 2009 at 4:18 pm
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Tiberius - July 5, 2009 at 4:28 pm
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Faith Tester - July 17, 2009 at 1:43 am
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Purple Rabbit - July 17, 2009 at 1:48 am
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Faith Tester - July 17, 2009 at 1:50 am
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Purple Rabbit - July 17, 2009 at 1:55 am
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Faith Tester - July 17, 2009 at 1:58 am
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Eilonnwy - July 5, 2009 at 4:33 pm
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by dagda - July 5, 2009 at 4:37 pm
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by leo-rcc - July 5, 2009 at 4:43 pm
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Rhizomorph13 - July 5, 2009 at 5:00 pm
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Tsuyoiko - July 6, 2009 at 5:41 am
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by padraic - July 8, 2009 at 9:12 pm
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Pippy - July 9, 2009 at 7:25 am
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Edwardo Piet - July 9, 2009 at 10:03 am
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Purple Rabbit - July 9, 2009 at 3:03 pm
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by dagda - July 9, 2009 at 3:27 pm
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Purple Rabbit - July 9, 2009 at 3:31 pm
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Edwardo Piet - July 9, 2009 at 4:29 pm
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Purple Rabbit - July 12, 2009 at 3:18 am
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Kyuuketsuki - July 12, 2009 at 6:15 am
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Purple Rabbit - July 12, 2009 at 6:57 am
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Kyuuketsuki - July 12, 2009 at 9:29 am
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Purple Rabbit - July 12, 2009 at 9:46 am
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Kyuuketsuki - July 12, 2009 at 12:00 pm
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Purple Rabbit - July 12, 2009 at 2:47 pm
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Edwardo Piet - July 12, 2009 at 4:39 pm
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Purple Rabbit - July 12, 2009 at 5:12 pm
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Edwardo Piet - July 12, 2009 at 6:16 pm
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Purple Rabbit - July 14, 2009 at 4:18 pm
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Edwardo Piet - July 14, 2009 at 8:31 pm
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Purple Rabbit - July 15, 2009 at 2:58 pm
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Kyuuketsuki - July 15, 2009 at 5:11 am
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Edwardo Piet - July 15, 2009 at 9:35 pm
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Pippy - July 15, 2009 at 7:05 am
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Kyuuketsuki - July 15, 2009 at 7:50 am
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Pippy - July 15, 2009 at 7:55 am
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Kyuuketsuki - July 15, 2009 at 8:13 am
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Purple Rabbit - July 16, 2009 at 1:59 am
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Edwardo Piet - July 16, 2009 at 7:09 pm
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Purple Rabbit - July 17, 2009 at 1:18 am
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Edwardo Piet - July 17, 2009 at 3:24 pm
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by fr0d0 - July 16, 2009 at 2:24 am
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Purple Rabbit - July 16, 2009 at 3:13 pm
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Purple Rabbit - July 17, 2009 at 4:37 pm
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Edwardo Piet - July 17, 2009 at 5:00 pm
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Purple Rabbit - July 18, 2009 at 8:11 am
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Edwardo Piet - July 18, 2009 at 9:32 am
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Purple Rabbit - July 18, 2009 at 9:49 am
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by fr0d0 - July 17, 2009 at 5:28 pm
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Edwardo Piet - July 17, 2009 at 5:36 pm
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Kyuuketsuki - July 18, 2009 at 3:09 am
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by fr0d0 - July 18, 2009 at 6:01 am
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Kyuuketsuki - July 18, 2009 at 7:08 am
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Edwardo Piet - July 18, 2009 at 7:30 am
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by fr0d0 - July 18, 2009 at 7:14 am
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Kyuuketsuki - July 20, 2009 at 7:25 am
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Kyuuketsuki - July 21, 2009 at 3:56 pm
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Edwardo Piet - July 18, 2009 at 9:58 am
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Tiberius - July 18, 2009 at 10:01 am
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Purple Rabbit - July 18, 2009 at 11:52 am
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Edwardo Piet - July 18, 2009 at 10:07 am
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by fr0d0 - July 18, 2009 at 10:10 am
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Dotard - July 20, 2009 at 7:06 pm
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Edwardo Piet - July 18, 2009 at 10:15 am
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by fr0d0 - July 18, 2009 at 11:23 am
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Edwardo Piet - July 18, 2009 at 12:12 pm
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Purple Rabbit - July 18, 2009 at 1:13 pm
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Edwardo Piet - July 18, 2009 at 4:29 pm
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Purple Rabbit - July 20, 2009 at 5:49 am
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Tiberius - July 18, 2009 at 2:14 pm
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Purple Rabbit - July 18, 2009 at 3:35 pm
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Purple Rabbit - July 20, 2009 at 5:23 am
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Edwardo Piet - July 20, 2009 at 5:38 am
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Purple Rabbit - July 20, 2009 at 9:06 am
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by fr0d0 - July 20, 2009 at 8:11 am
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Kyuuketsuki - July 20, 2009 at 8:43 am
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Kyuuketsuki - July 20, 2009 at 10:14 am
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Purple Rabbit - July 20, 2009 at 1:08 pm
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Edwardo Piet - July 20, 2009 at 9:17 pm
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Purple Rabbit - July 21, 2009 at 3:26 am
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Edwardo Piet - July 21, 2009 at 5:47 pm
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Purple Rabbit - July 22, 2009 at 5:35 am
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Kyuuketsuki - July 22, 2009 at 7:15 am
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Purple Rabbit - July 22, 2009 at 2:01 pm
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Edwardo Piet - July 22, 2009 at 8:12 pm
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Purple Rabbit - July 23, 2009 at 3:40 am
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Edwardo Piet - July 23, 2009 at 3:12 pm
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by fr0d0 - July 23, 2009 at 3:58 am
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Purple Rabbit - July 23, 2009 at 8:51 am
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by fr0d0 - July 23, 2009 at 3:17 pm
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Edwardo Piet - July 23, 2009 at 3:29 pm
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by fr0d0 - July 23, 2009 at 3:40 pm
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Kyuuketsuki - July 23, 2009 at 3:45 pm
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by fr0d0 - July 23, 2009 at 4:09 pm
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Kyuuketsuki - July 23, 2009 at 5:51 pm
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Purple Rabbit - July 23, 2009 at 4:26 pm
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Edwardo Piet - July 23, 2009 at 8:03 pm
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by fr0d0 - July 23, 2009 at 6:02 pm
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Kyuuketsuki - July 23, 2009 at 6:09 pm
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by fr0d0 - July 23, 2009 at 6:41 pm
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Kyuuketsuki - July 25, 2009 at 8:00 am
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Purple Rabbit - July 24, 2009 at 10:53 am
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Edwardo Piet - July 25, 2009 at 4:18 pm
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Purple Rabbit - July 26, 2009 at 7:41 am
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by fr0d0 - July 26, 2009 at 10:06 am
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by Edwardo Piet - July 26, 2009 at 6:33 pm
RE: Atheism feels shunned... - by maldives - August 3, 2009 at 2:23 am

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