RE: urge to pray - advice/help
February 11, 2012 at 11:03 am
(This post was last modified: February 11, 2012 at 11:06 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(February 11, 2012 at 5:44 am)brotherlylove Wrote: Is it hard to understand that not knowing you have an enemy is more advantageous for an enemy than knowing that you do have one, even if you are uninformed about it? One of the greatest tricks Satan ever pulled was convincing the world he doesn't exist.That would be a great line if so many people weren't christian. Tell me, exactly how did Satan convince the world that he doesn't exist when a very large chunk of the world believes that he does..yourself included? What Satan obviously has done is to fudge the specifics in order to entrap you.
Quote:I'm only aware of it because God led me to the truth, which I have seen with my own eyes; that is, demon possession.Actually, that writhing girl was possessed by god, trying to get a message through to you. Brilliant on Satan's part when you think about it, poisoning the well by convincing you that possessions were of demonic origin so that you would ignore the words of god when they were spoken.
Quote:I can't convince you of anything; it is a heart matter between you and God. I am here doing what the Lord wants me to do.
For something to be said to be between anything it must be bounded on at least two sides. Here I am, but unfortunately there is no god to border the other edge. So no, there's nothing between me and god. Just me, and then a vast stretch of emptiness beyond where your god is supposed to be. Maybe he took a lunch break?
Quote:If you hate God, you hate the source of all goodness and love. What is in your heart? Can you see how illogical it is to hate the one that made you and blessed you? You're saying even if you knew Jesus is God, you wouldn't be a Christian. Even though all the good things that you have in life came from Him. How ridiculous is that?No, I don't hate goodness or love, or where they come from. I actually don't hate your god either, no more than I hate Aaron or any other villian. What I hate is the realization that people such as yourself are willing to smile with teeth bared and propose tyranny as love, vindictiveness as mercy, and ransom as a gift. Helpful little werewolves, each and every one of you.
Quote:It doesn't appear you are going to be honest about it anytime soon.It doesn't appear that you're going to return to sanity anytime soon either, so I guess neither of us are going to get what we want today.
Quote:You think it is logical to believe that you just have a spirit and it didn't come from somewhere?Where did your god spirit come from then, somewhere..right? My opinions have very little to do with what someone else believes.
Quote:What do you think His story is?We're likely reading the same story. That you've decided to simply accept some things in the narrative that I have not is where we diverge.
Quote:So do you think the number of times you've violated the ten commandments is only in the low thousands then?
Probably about the same number as yourself. You know it's funny that you mention the ten commandments. My actions are as easily within the lines of those commandments as your own, even the ones that make specific mention of god (I'm hoping you'll just grant that I'm not a murderous, cheating, lying, thief btw). I don't have any gods before the judeo christian god (an amusing consequence of atheism) and I "keep" those commandments (as a consequence of simply being a decent person). You see, the trouble with god setting laws is that it becomes a contract, a sort of spiritual legal system. If god didn't wan't me gaming his laws he should have written them with more exacting or specific wording, because here I am, a godless heathen, and I can point to the contract at the pearly gates and say "Well, I don't care what you meant, this is what is written...now open up and get me a beer from the fridge okay sweetheart".
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