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Do animals have free Will?

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Do animals have free Will?
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RE: Do animals have free Will?
February 11, 2012 at 9:31 pm
(February 11, 2012 at 8:36 pm)Rhythm Wrote: I don't see how we can escape "environment as a programmer" in this way.

I would put it like this - "We've have a software installed - whether coming naturally or being installed later to create and install our own new software".

(February 11, 2012 at 8:36 pm)Rhythm Wrote: You're sure you installed your own software, nothing came bundled from the manufacturer?

The stuff that did would be like instincts.


(February 11, 2012 at 8:36 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Extremely yes, but counter-intuitive doesn't always mean untrue, as we've been reminded time and time again. So I guess we'll have to wait and see.

Probably I should have said "self-refuting". If someone doesn't know how to learn then you cannot teach him anything. If someone already knows how to learn then it is pointless to teach him how to learn.

Its the old chicken or the egg.
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Do animals have free Will?

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Do animals have free Will? - by Forsaken - February 9, 2012 at 5:15 am
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by tackattack - February 9, 2012 at 6:24 am
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by Tiberius - February 9, 2012 at 6:31 am
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by AthiestAtheist - February 9, 2012 at 5:26 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by Norfolk And Chance - April 13, 2012 at 12:41 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by tackattack - February 9, 2012 at 7:20 am
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by Napoléon - February 9, 2012 at 7:53 am
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by The Grand Nudger - February 9, 2012 at 10:35 am
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by genkaus - February 9, 2012 at 11:13 am
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by The Grand Nudger - February 9, 2012 at 11:22 am
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by genkaus - February 9, 2012 at 2:54 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by Whateverist - February 9, 2012 at 11:34 am
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by Shell B - February 9, 2012 at 12:24 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by Anomalocaris - February 9, 2012 at 12:29 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by Shell B - February 9, 2012 at 12:34 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by Rokcet Scientist - February 9, 2012 at 12:26 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by Rokcet Scientist - February 9, 2012 at 10:19 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by Edwardo Piet - February 9, 2012 at 12:55 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by Minimalist - February 9, 2012 at 12:56 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by RW_9 - February 9, 2012 at 1:21 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by Cosmic Ape - February 9, 2012 at 1:23 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by 5thHorseman - February 9, 2012 at 2:01 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by The Grand Nudger - February 9, 2012 at 3:07 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by genkaus - February 9, 2012 at 3:28 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by The Grand Nudger - February 9, 2012 at 3:34 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by genkaus - February 9, 2012 at 4:06 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by Anomalocaris - February 9, 2012 at 4:27 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by genkaus - February 10, 2012 at 9:21 am
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by The Grand Nudger - February 9, 2012 at 4:09 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by genkaus - February 9, 2012 at 4:41 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by Minimalist - February 9, 2012 at 4:16 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by Jackalope - February 9, 2012 at 4:31 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by The Grand Nudger - February 9, 2012 at 4:24 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by Jackalope - February 9, 2012 at 4:24 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by The Grand Nudger - February 9, 2012 at 4:32 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by The Grand Nudger - February 9, 2012 at 4:47 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by Godschild - February 9, 2012 at 5:00 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by AthiestAtheist - February 10, 2012 at 2:33 am
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by jediphobic - February 9, 2012 at 5:04 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by Minimalist - February 9, 2012 at 5:05 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by Godschild - February 9, 2012 at 5:25 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by The Grand Nudger - February 9, 2012 at 5:08 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by Godschild - February 9, 2012 at 5:57 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by The Grand Nudger - February 9, 2012 at 5:35 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by The Grand Nudger - February 9, 2012 at 6:14 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by Minimalist - February 9, 2012 at 6:51 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by 5thHorseman - February 10, 2012 at 3:55 am
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by padraic - February 9, 2012 at 8:36 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by Godschild - February 9, 2012 at 11:16 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by Rokcet Scientist - February 10, 2012 at 10:58 am
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by The Grand Nudger - February 10, 2012 at 2:37 am
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by padraic - February 10, 2012 at 3:41 am
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by AthiestAtheist - February 10, 2012 at 11:29 am
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by Godschild - April 12, 2012 at 8:03 am
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by Chuff - February 10, 2012 at 5:50 am
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by Rokcet Scientist - February 10, 2012 at 6:04 am
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by The Grand Nudger - February 10, 2012 at 11:47 am
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by genkaus - February 10, 2012 at 12:27 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by The Grand Nudger - February 10, 2012 at 12:52 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by genkaus - February 10, 2012 at 1:40 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by The Grand Nudger - February 10, 2012 at 1:42 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by genkaus - February 10, 2012 at 3:47 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by The Grand Nudger - February 10, 2012 at 3:50 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by genkaus - February 10, 2012 at 3:55 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by The Grand Nudger - February 10, 2012 at 4:00 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by genkaus - February 10, 2012 at 7:08 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by The Grand Nudger - February 10, 2012 at 7:36 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by genkaus - February 10, 2012 at 8:10 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by The Grand Nudger - February 10, 2012 at 8:12 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by genkaus - February 10, 2012 at 9:22 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by The Grand Nudger - February 11, 2012 at 12:08 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by Rokcet Scientist - February 11, 2012 at 3:16 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by genkaus - February 11, 2012 at 8:30 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by The Grand Nudger - February 11, 2012 at 8:36 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by genkaus - February 11, 2012 at 9:31 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by NoMoreFaith - April 12, 2012 at 8:11 am
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by Godschild - April 12, 2012 at 8:44 am
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by Faith No More - April 12, 2012 at 8:53 am
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by Aegrus - April 12, 2012 at 9:37 am
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by R-e-n-n-a-t - April 12, 2012 at 1:02 pm
RE: Do animals have free Will? - by padraic - April 12, 2012 at 7:37 pm

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