RE: I am a Catholic, ask me a question!
July 28, 2009 at 11:21 am
(This post was last modified: July 28, 2009 at 4:06 pm by Jon Paul.)
(July 27, 2009 at 5:37 pm)Purple Rabbit Wrote: Uranium changes spontaneously into lead through decay. There are statistical laws that describe the phenomenon. But you cannot predict for an individual atom its decay. Some decay sooner, some decay later. No one knows why they do what they do. So empirical evidence to sustain the claim that this phenomenon is causal is absent. Indeed the pattern of decay for a group of atoms follows the characteristcs of a random process. There is evidence for randomness, there is absence of evidence for the claim that these events are caused. Yet you here claim again from ignorance that they are caused. This is special pleading to support your model which is so crude that not a single prediction on a natural phenomenon or a single explanation of such a phenomenon can be made.It seems the errorneous assumption in your idea is that "the vacuum" (or void, as I call it) is 'empty'. Which it is certainly not. An insight from someone else which is very interesting to this:
It was Kant who proposed that causality may be nothing more than a notion of the human mind that does not exist in reality. The scientific consensus at the moment is that some events are uncaused. Tunneling of particles through a barrier is one. Another uncaused phenomenon is the random creation (my note: causally indeterminable) of virtual particles from the vacuum (vacuum fluctuations). Virtual particle pairs are predicted to have a calculable effect upon the energy levels of atoms. The effect expected is minute - only a change of one part in a billion, but it has been confirmed by experimenters. In 1953 Willis Lamb measured this excited energy state for a hydrogen atom. No doubt remains that virtual particles are really there.
It is certainly too limiting to define “nothing” as the absence of matter (that which has mass). E=mc^2 is not just a license to blow things up. It literally means what it says. Matter and energy are interchangeable, and just as a particle can spontaneously decay into energy, so a particle can spontaneously emerge from the void, even when it would appear that there is insufficient energy for it to do so (via quantum-mechanical tunneling). The “void” then becomes merely a word describing the absence of matter, but it is in no sense empty. This discussion leaves out dark matter and dark energy. Science is not clear yet on what exactly these things are, or even if they are, but clearly there are aspects required to explain the observed universe that are outside of the simple big bang cosmology of the 70s and early 80s. The void is filled with conventional energy, conventional gravity, dark energy, dark matter, gravity-like fields from dark matter, and possibly other entities we do not yet know of. The appearance or decay of a particle in a quantum vacuum may thus be said to be spontaneous, but cannot be said to be uncaused.
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