I got to butt heads with my first fanactical christians last day, it was interesting to say the least because they were the parents of a close friend of mine named Sarah.
Another one of my friends, Cole, brought it up, he happens to be her boyfriend. It caught me off guard a bit because he did so after Sarah's parents basically freaked on us about a camping trip. The topic was why Sarah, an atheist was still forced to go to church.
I couldn't hope to cover the whole thing as most parts happened rather fast and my memory is somewhat weak concerning the event. It seemed that no matter what I said I couldn't help offend them and cause them to raise their voices.
Cole had actually told me after that the way I was speaking was probably the reason they even stayed as long as they did, I find I am often very polite when dealing with theists, I'm not sure if it's a good thing or not.
Either way my argument was that reguardless of anything else, I felt them forcing Sarah to go only caused negitivity and build a wall between Sarah and her parents, and god for those who thought he existed. They however, insisted (using many more words) that their way was the only way and refused to accept any other opinion. Of course it was not long before it came down to the standard personal attacks instead of attacks on my argument.
Eventually I must have said something that stuck a nerve because after trying to reword my point a few times and hearing Sarahs parents repeat the same biblical bull for a half hour the mother jumped up, started swearing, said something along the lines of "FINE you don't have to go to church! NOW DO YOU FEEL LIKE AN ADULT!?" Capital words to show shouting of course. The adult thing had come up earlier where they basically said Sarah was useless without them holding her hand.
The comment of course upsetted Sarah a bit, she had actually said very little and yet they threw everything I had said in her face. They took her home right away, so we "couldn't have our moment of victory". Of course we had no such moment anyways, we were trying to comfort a friend who has a nazi for a mother.
We did celebrate a bit later because we were all together anyways, and spent a few hours going over their points and our points like civilised people. That was a change.
In the end the whole thing reminded me of a quote a friend once told me: "Debating christians is like playing chess with a pidgeon. When they start to lose they knock over the game board, shit on everything then fly back to their nest declaring victory."
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Another one of my friends, Cole, brought it up, he happens to be her boyfriend. It caught me off guard a bit because he did so after Sarah's parents basically freaked on us about a camping trip. The topic was why Sarah, an atheist was still forced to go to church.
I couldn't hope to cover the whole thing as most parts happened rather fast and my memory is somewhat weak concerning the event. It seemed that no matter what I said I couldn't help offend them and cause them to raise their voices.
Cole had actually told me after that the way I was speaking was probably the reason they even stayed as long as they did, I find I am often very polite when dealing with theists, I'm not sure if it's a good thing or not.
Either way my argument was that reguardless of anything else, I felt them forcing Sarah to go only caused negitivity and build a wall between Sarah and her parents, and god for those who thought he existed. They however, insisted (using many more words) that their way was the only way and refused to accept any other opinion. Of course it was not long before it came down to the standard personal attacks instead of attacks on my argument.
Eventually I must have said something that stuck a nerve because after trying to reword my point a few times and hearing Sarahs parents repeat the same biblical bull for a half hour the mother jumped up, started swearing, said something along the lines of "FINE you don't have to go to church! NOW DO YOU FEEL LIKE AN ADULT!?" Capital words to show shouting of course. The adult thing had come up earlier where they basically said Sarah was useless without them holding her hand.
The comment of course upsetted Sarah a bit, she had actually said very little and yet they threw everything I had said in her face. They took her home right away, so we "couldn't have our moment of victory". Of course we had no such moment anyways, we were trying to comfort a friend who has a nazi for a mother.
We did celebrate a bit later because we were all together anyways, and spent a few hours going over their points and our points like civilised people. That was a change.
In the end the whole thing reminded me of a quote a friend once told me: "Debating christians is like playing chess with a pidgeon. When they start to lose they knock over the game board, shit on everything then fly back to their nest declaring victory."
Questions/comments/think I'm a massive dick? please reply!
