(February 25, 2012 at 6:29 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Just be smart doesn't cut it Shell.
Be smart has to cut it. You can't be consistent and be pro-choice, pro forced vaccinations. Your body is your responsibility. Yes, if you don't like it, hide in your house. Plenty of people do that.
Quote:Smart people (those who wash their hands, cook their food properly, follow the rules) get sick too.
They sure do. That's fucking life. Yes, we should do what we can when we can. Should we make other people do that too? Hell, no.
Quote:Viruses do evolve outside of us, but evolving within our population gives them a leg up on infecting us over other species.
Vaccinations give them a leg up on mutating. Guaranteed way to make something more infectious and dangerous, make it harder to contract it.
Quote:Mel hasn't caught rubella because she is vaccinated, and most of the people she works with are vaccinated, and we haven't seen it reinvent itself as a hardier, more resistant strain. That doesn't mean it can't or won't.
Yeah, and when it does, we'll have to come up with another vaccine. This is life. So, the fact that viruses evolve gives you the right to force a needle into someone else? No, it doesn't.
Quote:We have every reason to believe that it can and will. That's exactly why we worry about developed resistance to countermeasures (and how much and how often those countermeasures are used...and why punctuated, abrupt eradication while we have it pinned down is always preferred).
I won't argue about any of that. I will argue with people forcing other people to take vaccines. The bottom line is that vaccines can be dangerous too. If you do not allow people to make informed decisions, you are dealing with those very few individuals who are infected rather than vaccinated when you stick them with that needle. Fuck that.
Mel beat me to it.
