(February 25, 2012 at 7:46 pm)Rhythm Wrote: It's rough isn't it, deciding where it begins and ends. It's similarly rough taking the stance that it begins nowhere. Vaccinations, infectious disease, and our history with outbreaks and epidemics might justr put this one in a different box than trees falling on cars Shell, or brushing our teeth (though that ones pretty crucial too). You aren't going to give anyone smallpox by not flossing, your tree will not be giving anyone the measles anytime soon. Etc etc etc.
You have to take into account that not being vaccinated does not mean that you will inevitably contract the disease. You can't just say that people who are not vaccinated are going to give people smallpox. In fact, the vaccination can give other people small pox! When my ex-husband was vaccinated for the small pox before he went to Iraq, we were allowed to kiss, touch each other or sleep together for several days. He had to wash his own clothes and do his own dishes.
Quote:Don't trot out the word hysterics (again) and then respond like this.
Oh, I will. Because . . . what is below is nowhere near no vaccine = mass murderer! A fucking small percentage of the population not getting vaccines has, historically, had nowhere near the impact you project.
Quote:You can't control the world, but you can be immunized, and you can expect others to take similar precautions.
No, I can't. I can be immunized, but I cannot expect shit from other people. I'm not Captain fucking Planet.
Quote:This isn't an issue of controlling the world.....looks up at the hysterics remark...again.
You keep reading it. It won't change the fact that trying to control what every person does with their own body is trying to control the world.
Quote:Yes, injecting your body with a known substance of demonstrated effect and little to no possibility of harm with immense benefits for the entirety of mankind.
Oh, yes. For the entirety of mankind. A population reduction would be beneficial too. That didn't stop you from having children. Would you have liked me to have saved you and the rest of mankind from yourself and saved those resources for other people? No? Good, because I wouldn't want to do that. Such is life.
Quote:All with extremely rigorous testing and control procedures in place.
Oh, I wouldn't go that far. There are precautions, but let's not pretend the medical community doesn't fuck up every now and then.
Quote:Bad idea to make something like that mandatory. Can I ask you a question, how do you feel about the pasteurization of milk?
What does that have to do with anything? Did I say I hate vaccines? A more appropriate question would be, "How do I feel about people having the ability to choose whether their milk is pasteurized or not." My answer to that would be, "Let them drink milk however the fuck they want to drink it."
We never talk about things on which we agree. I fear you are argumentative. By that I mean, I fear you are a lot like me.
I still like you, even if you are an opinion elitist. /kidding (Don't you dare go on a tangent about that. I really am kidding.)