RE: Abstaining from Vaccination should NOT be a right
February 27, 2012 at 12:09 pm
(This post was last modified: February 27, 2012 at 12:10 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(February 27, 2012 at 11:58 am)Shell B Wrote: Actually, you do. My point was never, "Throughout the history of mankind, human beings have always, everywhere, had the right to refuse vaccinations. It was always, "It is your body, you have the right to make informed decisions about it."
Compulsory vaccination was an informed decision.
Quote:I don't see how you got that, either. My point was that it was not mandatory worldwide and yet it was still eradicated.
By countries where it was, and by mimicing our policies even though we could not write their laws.
Quote:You don't have to vaccinate people who will not come into contact with a virus. That's just fucking stupid.
Sure is, but we're talking about vaccinating against diseases you are likely to come into contact with, and why it just might be a good idea to enforce the mandatory vaccination statutes much more strictly.
Quote:Now you're simply inferring what you can argue from arguments that are not what you are interpreting.Care to be more specific?
Quote:I have always said that vaccinations are effective. I have always said that I am personally for them. I don't understand why you choose to argue those points when I never made them. You have to establish a reason why a forced vaccination that could potentially hurt someone is somehow better than letting that person get sick.No, Shell, I don't, because that's already been established, by the Supreme Court....in the link i just gave you..........
Quote:If your argument is the great good, you have to establish why the greater good trumps individual good. It makes you and others happy isn't good enough. Why should one person sacrifice their happiness for anyone else if they do not choose to do so?
Happiness, wtf? Again, already established, in the same place that the above was established.
Quote:No we didn't.Yes, we did, and I already gave you the link. The Supreme Court's (and subsequent State's) decisions in the matter, and the science that backs up those decisions aren't my will. You're the one arguing for someones personal will here, not me. What's the deal, you can't argue the issue directly and so you'd rather argue about me imposing my will? Well make another thread. I thought we were discussing public health policy, vaccinations, and whether or not those exemptions we allow are a good idea.
Care to elaborate upon the outbreak in Great Britain? What was the cause?
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