(August 8, 2009 at 3:50 pm)Jon Paul Wrote:(August 8, 2009 at 3:45 pm)Ace Wrote: You can easily make up a character that is beyond provable and disprovable.But that is not what you did, or what atheists do when they commit the fallacy of arbitrary predication of divine attributes. What they do is call the spaghetti monster or easter bunny God.
(August 8, 2009 at 3:45 pm)Ace Wrote: There is a god and his name is Jad and you cannot see him nor hear him and nor can you detect him but he is there. "who I call Jad is immaterial, nonspatial, nontemporal and self subsistent rather than contingent."You can call God Jad if you want to. Or you can call God Bob. It makes no difference.
If you grant all the necessary attributes of transcendence (divine simplicity) then you have already granted that what I call God exists.
Wrong again. You have been believing in this god feller who happens to be santa as well. It is a character no differant from any other. You can change it's name, it's purpose or whatever. Jad is your god, Jad is one of many characters that can be ultered at any given time.
Easter bunnys and unicorns are no differant from your god. They are all one big thought up family. Neither of them less or more special or more likely.
"If you grant all the necessary attributes of transcendence (divine simplicity) then you have already granted that what I call Jad exists." Remember! It's just a name. Whatever you call your friend makes no differance. No book, story, belief, name or purpose will make any differance. God is no more likely than any other thought up charater. God is no more differant.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan
Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.