the_truth Wrote:(August 10, 2009 at 11:39 am)leo-rcc Wrote: Why do you keep claiming atheist should be certain about the non existence of gods? Atheism only means not believing in gods, and has nothing to do with knowledge or certainty. We just find a god figure unlikely, therefore we say on the bus ad "There is probably no God".Believe me, I know atheism has nothing to do with knowledge or certainty. Sure, you can say "there is probably no God", but that is the most unsupported statement I have ever witnessed.
So what? There probably is no god, I see no reason to assume there is.
the_truth Wrote:Quote:You believe a god exists. Good for you. So why bother us with that?You don't believe in God. So why bother us with your Bus ad?
the campaign was originally started as a positive counter-response to the Jesus Said ads running on London buses. These ads displayed the URL of a website which stated that non-Christians "will be condemned to everlasting separation from God and then you spend all eternity in torment in hell … Jesus spoke about this as a lake of fire prepared for the devil".
Now whether you believe that is true or not is irrelevant, the advert was launched to let people know that it is okay not to believe the same bullshit others do.
Quote:Do you honestly believe the world will see atheism is a whole new light because of an ad on a bus?
No I don't and I don't care either. Do you believe complaining about it here will accomplish anything?
Quote:Maybe Theists should create a bus ad that says "God is probably there, but you still can enjoy your life".
You know what your theists did?
They ran their own add plagiarizing the atheist bus campaign and run:
"There definitely is a God. So join the Christian Party and enjoy your life."
That is positive claim they cannot prove. Great display of intellectual honesty there.
Quote:I believe God is there, and I'm enjoying life more than ever.
Like I said, good for you, why bother us about it?
Quote:Not so much proving atheism has a solid foundation, but rather to ridicule, insult and agitate believers.
Again, so what? Are you too sensitive for ridicule?
Quote:Atheists would be a taken a bit more serious if you guys weren't so gung-ho to show the world "God is probably not there, so enjoy your life".
If you are going to quote it, at least get the add right.
"There's probably no God. Now stop worrying and enjoy your life"
Best regards,
Leo van Miert
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Leo van Miert
Horsepower is how hard you hit the wall --Torque is how far you take the wall with you