(March 12, 2012 at 4:32 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Agreed. Human consciousness is a product of nature. However, the process by which animals evolve without our interference is not a product of consciousness or intelligence. I'd call that an important distinction. As would our livestock and crops, if they could speak, which isn't something we're likely to select them for..lol.
(late edit, "is not always", we could invoke sexual selection and the consciousness and intelligence of the animals making the selection)
You can't have it both ways, humans are part of the evolutionary process, so everything we do is part of nature. Having greater "intelligence" could be the advantage that gave us survival in the earlier history of our participation in this process, but could be seen as also how we could become extinct as well. Same as everything else. Seems to be in our nature to create nukes and worse! No different than yeast eating sugar in a closed system.

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