RE: Dawkins>Prospect(?)
October 23, 2008 at 1:37 pm
(This post was last modified: October 23, 2008 at 1:53 pm by Edwardo Piet.)
(October 23, 2008 at 1:31 pm)ManofGOD Wrote:Oh, dear.(October 23, 2008 at 12:49 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote:(October 23, 2008 at 12:36 pm)ManofGOD Wrote:This is a joke right? Sounds like skyhookery again.(October 23, 2008 at 5:10 am)Kyuuketsuki Wrote:(October 22, 2008 at 7:28 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: Also Dawkins said - and I paraphrase here - : The difference between fundamentalism, and what's simply just passion, is that fundamentalism is what happens if you're passionate about something in the absence of evidence.
It becomes fundamentalism when your passion rejects evidence.
Hope I got that right.
I guess this must be the quote you're referring to:
"No, please, do not mistake passion, which can change its mind, for fundamentalism, which never will. Passion for passion, an evangelical Christian and I may be evenly matched. But we are not equally fundamentalist. The true scientist, however passionately he may "believe", in evolution for example, knows exactly what would change his mind: evidence! The fundamentalist knows that nothing will." Dawkins (from How dare you call me a fundamentalist)
Good quote so thanks
Kyu
Evidence of GODs message can be found by searching facebook for 'Message from GOD'. You will find a picture of a scrabble game with words describing Heaven.
I indeed do not think that the argument from personal experience, or psychological, or other forms of, trickery, are genuine forms of evidence.
No. This is no joke. I was a hardcore atheist for 16 years, believing that evolution and the big bang explained everything, until GOD showed himself to me. I understand fully your views, but they are wrong.
Well you've obviously abandoned logic if you suggest that it is beyond all doubt that a God exists...you can't KNOW that. In fact you PROBABLY can't know ANYTHING. Nor can I. Not for sure. Not 100%. There are too many conceivable (and inconceivable) possibilites and variables. As Socrates said, I believe, quite rightly,: "I know nothing except the fact of my ignorance."
Statistically I'm afraid, and I mean no harm by this; but based on statistical probability I'd say you're probably much, much, much, more likely to be hallucinating, and to have imagined/ be imagining your experience of God - than for God to really exist. I would have thought that would be obvious to a former true 'Hardcore' Atheist...unless you're talking of the 100% disbelief of a 'Strong' atheist in the sense of, an Atheist who, does not accept the possibility of God. Who thinks some things can be disproved. I doubt anything can be disproved. Like I said, I even doubt that. I'm a De-Facto Atheist. I am (somewhat) skeptical. I'm no longer a 'Strong' Atheist. And from experience I(think I ) know that 'Strong' Atheism can lead to 'Strong' Theism. 'Strong' anything, whether Theist or Atheist or whatever, in the Gnostic sense, can be considered Dogmatic perhaps - and can perhaps lead to other 'Dogmas'