RE: Do you believe in free will?
March 15, 2012 at 2:08 am
(This post was last modified: March 15, 2012 at 3:04 am by The Grand Nudger.)
Again, you're assuming that there is more to the self than the mind, I am not (and that's the woo..btw. I'll just keep repeating this until it sinks in, we explain the unknown by means of the known). The reason that I am not, is that everything associated with the self seems inextricably bound to the mind. Inextricably bound to the functions which it accomplishes, and this mind is inextricably bound to the brain. There is no other "I" generating apparatus in sight, and the brain, and by extensions it's effect (the mind), very much appear to be more than capable. LOL, Neurophilosophy, try neuroscience. Why are you sourcing your science from a philosopher Apo? My problem is not one of comprehension, it is one of being unwilling to make additional assumptions where I need not make them. Some people don't consider that much of a problem at all. If you're going to respond to the publication I linked you with a older publication, I'll refer you to cave drawings which handle the subject of self in my next response, maybe they're even more informed?
Split brain, btw, is what led us to conclude that the right hemisphere was the one involved in generating "self-awareness". By the by,
"Churchland has focused on the interface between neuroscience and philosophy. According to her, philosophers are increasingly realizing that to understand the mind one must understand the brain. She is associated with a school of thought called eliminative materialism , which argues that commonsense, immediately intuitive, or "folk psychological" concepts such as thought, free will, and consciousness will likely need to be revised in a physically reductionistic way as neuroscientists discover more about the nature of brain function."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patricia_Churchland
Well I'll be damned, looks like I agree with her completely. Godamned materialists everywhere all of a sudden.
"Some eliminativists argue that no coherent neural basis will be found for many everyday psychological concepts such as belief or desire, since they are poorly defined. Rather, they argue that psychological concepts of behaviour and experience should be judged by how well they reduce to the biological level."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eliminative_materialism
Since you're keen on subtracting things, and you're keen on Mrs Chruchland here, understand that she might just subtract your "self" as folk psychology. Of course I couldn't care less what she subtracts unless she has evidence.
Split brain, btw, is what led us to conclude that the right hemisphere was the one involved in generating "self-awareness". By the by,
"Churchland has focused on the interface between neuroscience and philosophy. According to her, philosophers are increasingly realizing that to understand the mind one must understand the brain. She is associated with a school of thought called eliminative materialism , which argues that commonsense, immediately intuitive, or "folk psychological" concepts such as thought, free will, and consciousness will likely need to be revised in a physically reductionistic way as neuroscientists discover more about the nature of brain function."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patricia_Churchland
Well I'll be damned, looks like I agree with her completely. Godamned materialists everywhere all of a sudden.
"Some eliminativists argue that no coherent neural basis will be found for many everyday psychological concepts such as belief or desire, since they are poorly defined. Rather, they argue that psychological concepts of behaviour and experience should be judged by how well they reduce to the biological level."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eliminative_materialism
Since you're keen on subtracting things, and you're keen on Mrs Chruchland here, understand that she might just subtract your "self" as folk psychology. Of course I couldn't care less what she subtracts unless she has evidence.
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