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Religious indoctrination of children
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RE: Religious indoctrination of children
(March 17, 2012 at 12:50 pm)Stimbo Wrote:
(March 17, 2012 at 1:12 am)Godschild Wrote:
(March 15, 2012 at 6:49 am)Stimbo Wrote:




Evolution would be a damn strange religion. It has no deities, no prophets, no ceremonies, no tax breaks, essentially it lacks just about everything that would be recognised as characteristic of a religion; and any part of it that might be so regarded depends on a definition of religion so loose as to encompass subjects as diverse as sports, science fiction and stamp collecting.

As for the creation view, either there is nothing tangible that can actually be examined or else what is presented can be dismissed as irrelevant, misrepresented, or outright lies. If creationists actually had something, anything, to support their case, it and they would be taken seriously in a scientific context. Instead, they trot out nothing but half-baked conspiracy theories and misleading mumbo-jumbo in an attempt to sell snakeoil to the credulous.

But just for the moment let's entertain the notion that evolution is indeed a religion. Which part would be the religious aspect? The observed fact of evolution in nature, perhaps? Or would it be the theory, the model which, with its mass of supporting and mutually-corroborating evidence, supplies a mechanism for the natural phenomenon? Please, give the history and status of evolution as you see it. I would really be interested in that, as I'm sure we all would.

ETA: Also, why evolution specifically, as opposed to any of the other hundreds of theories in the scientific arena? Are they [u]all[/i] religions?

I agree evolution is a strange religion, faith in something unproven makes it a religion, per your definition of religion. It is up to those who believe in evolution to define it's god/s not those on the outside, that burden is on you. By the way no observation of evolution has ever been proven, unless you are going to claim adaptation as evolution and no species has ever become a different species through adaptation. For the last 50 years or so the Russians have been breeding silver foxes, they have managed to change behavior, for better or worse, and even a variation in color, but they are still foxes and will always be.

"Why evolution specifically," because billions have been milked from tax dollars and yet evolution after all these years is still an unproven theory. That money would have been better spent feeding the poor and ect. There is no evidence for evolution, until an undeniable transitional form is proven to have been part of the making of a new species then faith is all you have.

"Are they all religions," no many have been shown to hold up to scrutiny, I can give you an example, yesterday my feet slipped and I wound up on my bottom side, ie. gravity, here's another the last time I worked on an electric appliance I was careless and got the geewhezz knocked out of me, ie. electricity.
(March 18, 2012 at 5:15 pm)Napoleon Wrote: A - The first letter of the alphabet.

B - This is the second letter of the alphabet.

C - The third letter of the alphabet.

I could go on...

I'm not sure you can.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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Religious indoctrination of children - by shipleyy - March 14, 2012 at 8:49 am
RE: Religious indoctrination of children - by znk666 - March 14, 2012 at 3:37 pm
RE: Religious indoctrination of children - by One King - March 14, 2012 at 5:18 pm
RE: Religious indoctrination of children - by Napoléon - March 14, 2012 at 8:57 pm
RE: Religious indoctrination of children - by Godschild - March 15, 2012 at 2:03 am
RE: Religious indoctrination of children - by Napoléon - March 15, 2012 at 9:20 am
RE: Religious indoctrination of children - by Godschild - March 17, 2012 at 1:12 am
RE: Religious indoctrination of children - by Phil - March 17, 2012 at 1:26 am
RE: Religious indoctrination of children - by Godschild - March 17, 2012 at 2:37 am
RE: Religious indoctrination of children - by Aegrus - March 17, 2012 at 2:44 am
RE: Religious indoctrination of children - by Phil - March 17, 2012 at 2:58 am
RE: Religious indoctrination of children - by Godschild - March 18, 2012 at 5:00 pm
RE: Religious indoctrination of children - by Cyberman - March 17, 2012 at 12:50 pm
RE: Religious indoctrination of children - by Godschild - March 18, 2012 at 5:35 pm
RE: Religious indoctrination of children - by Napoléon - March 18, 2012 at 5:41 pm
RE: Religious indoctrination of children - by Cyberman - March 14, 2012 at 11:16 pm
RE: Religious indoctrination of children - by picto90 - March 15, 2012 at 9:45 am
RE: Religious indoctrination of children - by Minimalist - March 14, 2012 at 6:03 pm
RE: Religious indoctrination of children - by SaintGeorge - March 14, 2012 at 9:54 pm
RE: Religious indoctrination of children - by Napoléon - March 14, 2012 at 10:04 pm
RE: Religious indoctrination of children - by Minimalist - March 14, 2012 at 10:23 pm
RE: Religious indoctrination of children - by padraic - March 14, 2012 at 11:49 pm
RE: Religious indoctrination of children - by Cyberman - March 15, 2012 at 6:49 am
RE: Religious indoctrination of children - by Napoléon - March 15, 2012 at 10:13 am
RE: Religious indoctrination of children - by KichigaiNeko - March 15, 2012 at 10:17 am
RE: Religious indoctrination of children - by Napoléon - March 15, 2012 at 10:21 am
RE: Religious indoctrination of children - by KichigaiNeko - March 15, 2012 at 10:23 am
RE: Religious indoctrination of children - by Aegrus - March 17, 2012 at 12:07 pm
RE: Religious indoctrination of children - by Phil - March 17, 2012 at 12:16 pm
RE: Religious indoctrination of children - by Godschild - March 18, 2012 at 5:57 pm
RE: Religious indoctrination of children - by Napoléon - March 18, 2012 at 5:15 pm
RE: Religious indoctrination of children - by Nine - March 18, 2012 at 5:16 pm
RE: Religious indoctrination of children - by Darwinian - March 18, 2012 at 6:04 pm
RE: Religious indoctrination of children - by mediamogul - March 18, 2012 at 6:05 pm
RE: Religious indoctrination of children - by Godschild - March 25, 2012 at 4:46 am
RE: Religious indoctrination of children - by Phil - March 25, 2012 at 4:52 am
RE: Religious indoctrination of children - by mediamogul - March 25, 2012 at 11:07 am
RE: Religious indoctrination of children - by mediamogul - March 25, 2012 at 10:49 am
RE: Religious indoctrination of children - by Tobie - March 25, 2012 at 11:03 am
RE: Religious indoctrination of children - by Nine - March 25, 2012 at 10:58 am
RE: Religious indoctrination of children - by Godschild - March 26, 2012 at 2:49 am
RE: Religious indoctrination of children - by Phil - March 26, 2012 at 4:02 am
RE: Religious indoctrination of children - by mediamogul - March 26, 2012 at 10:18 am
RE: Religious indoctrination of children - by Godschild - March 27, 2012 at 1:55 am
RE: Religious indoctrination of children - by genkaus - March 27, 2012 at 3:06 am
RE: Religious indoctrination of children - by Aldrich - March 19, 2012 at 7:31 am
RE: Religious indoctrination of children - by Phil - March 19, 2012 at 10:00 am
RE: Religious indoctrination of children - by Cyberman - March 19, 2012 at 3:16 pm
RE: Religious indoctrination of children - by KichigaiNeko - March 19, 2012 at 10:09 am
RE: Religious indoctrination of children - by Phil - March 19, 2012 at 10:12 am
RE: Religious indoctrination of children - by KichigaiNeko - March 19, 2012 at 10:15 am
RE: Religious indoctrination of children - by Phil - March 19, 2012 at 10:17 am
RE: Religious indoctrination of children - by KichigaiNeko - March 19, 2012 at 10:43 am
RE: Religious indoctrination of children - by Nine - March 25, 2012 at 11:11 am
RE: Religious indoctrination of children - by Tobie - March 25, 2012 at 11:15 am
RE: Religious indoctrination of children - by Phil - March 25, 2012 at 7:54 pm
RE: Religious indoctrination of children - by 5thHorseman - March 25, 2012 at 5:02 pm
RE: Religious indoctrination of children - by Godschild - March 27, 2012 at 5:49 pm
RE: Religious indoctrination of children - by LarissaAnn - March 28, 2012 at 9:45 am
RE: Religious indoctrination of children - by Godschild - March 29, 2012 at 3:17 am
RE: Religious indoctrination of children - by LarissaAnn - March 29, 2012 at 10:26 am
RE: Religious indoctrination of children - by Godschild - March 28, 2012 at 2:53 am
RE: Religious indoctrination of children - by One King - April 1, 2012 at 10:22 am
RE: Religious indoctrination of children - by Erinome - April 1, 2012 at 10:29 am
RE: Religious indoctrination of children - by One King - April 1, 2012 at 10:38 am
RE: Religious indoctrination of children - by Erinome - April 1, 2012 at 10:41 am
RE: Religious indoctrination of children - by One King - April 1, 2012 at 12:42 pm
RE: Religious indoctrination of children - by Ace Otana - April 1, 2012 at 12:44 pm
RE: Religious indoctrination of children - by One King - April 1, 2012 at 12:48 pm
RE: Religious indoctrination of children - by Nine - April 1, 2012 at 12:49 pm
RE: Religious indoctrination of children - by Ace Otana - April 1, 2012 at 12:50 pm
RE: Religious indoctrination of children - by Nine - April 1, 2012 at 12:47 pm
RE: Religious indoctrination of children - by Cyberman - April 1, 2012 at 4:05 pm

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