(August 13, 2009 at 7:23 pm)Jon Paul Wrote: Obviously logic means the rules and laws of reality that apply to matter and energy, and in time and space, but logic is not itself matter, energy or time and space; it is itself conceptualConcepts physically reside in the brain. If logic exists at all it exists as, yes a 'concept(/s)' in the brain, as a way to measure our understanding of our experience on this planet of the apparent rationality of the universe.
Quote:No, but logic needs to apply outside of our minds as a conceptual reality.
Give evidence for that please.
Quote:No, but I cannot force you, by any means, to accept something as true. That will, in the end, have to depend on your own free will.
I know of no evidence for 'free will' outside the 'compatibilist' sense, whether the universe is deterministic or indeterministic. So no, it doesn't depend on my 'free will' (unless you mean in a 'compatibilist' sense), it depends on how the mechanics of the universe go and what I happen to do, not that I'm at all apathetic in attitude as a result of that belief (and that wouldn't change the fact of the matter anyway). So what I do is also down to the mechanics of the universe - where's the evidence that I'm an exception to it? - of which I'm part of, of course.
So...sorry(!) I don't accept that either. Evidence please.
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